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WWYD teacher behaving inappropriately

166 replies

dontknowwhattodowiththisinfo · 22/12/2017 21:25

WWYD with this information.

I have been told that last night my daughters form tutor (male aged 28) was very drunk at a local nightclub. He was grinding against a 17YO girl l and shoved an 18YO man who told him he was embarrassing himself and to go home.

Would you report it to the school? If so who to and what would you say?

OP posts:
Tomselleckhaskindeyes · 23/12/2017 14:18

I keep bumping into my children’s teachers on nights out. They go to various far flung places in Yorkshire to avoid being seen. Unfortunately i’m Doing the same and keep bumping into them. Thing is you can have fun out and about but you do always have to think you are visable and recognisable.

Mistressiggi · 23/12/2017 19:34

It is not entirely clear to me whether the girl was someone from a different school, or someone from the same school but who he didn’t teach.
I think both are wrong but if it’s the latter he would absolutely be in trouble at work.
It’s not often on mumsnet that I find myself being more critical of a teacher than the general consensus! He sounds like a very very stupid man.

LuluJakey1 · 23/12/2017 19:40

If they were pupils at his school - whether he teaches them or not- his behaviour is ill-advised at best and entirely inappropriate at worse. You should absolutely report this to the Headteacher. I speak as an ex-Deputy Head with responsibility for Safeguarding in a secondary school.

BelaLugosisShed · 23/12/2017 19:59

This kind of thing is taken very seriously in schools. My DD is a teacher and was suspended pending investigation because a child alleged that DD had taken her 16 yr old friend to a pub and bought her alcohol - it was all rubbish and thankfully easily proven to be false. All teachers know they have to be scrupulous in their dealings with students, in OR out of work.

MaisyPops · 23/12/2017 20:54

BelaLugosisShed
But not to the point where we should avoud perfectly legal socialising and alcohol consumption in case some underage teens are in a nightclub and want to start rumours.

I think he was a bit of a div (to quote another poster) but nothing which warrants some of the responses on here.

MidniteScribbler · 23/12/2017 22:31

I suspect 18 year old boy likes 17 year old girl and is trying to shit stir.

BoneyBackJefferson · 23/12/2017 23:08

MidniteScribbler

It would be interesting to know what the 17 yr old that was dancing with the teacher's version of this is, and not the mate of a mate version that we have here.

LaughingLlama · 23/12/2017 23:20

Tbh this sounds like a bit of a witch hunt.

It's almost as if everyone involved (except the teacher) is looking for something to report and revelling in the drama.

Rach5l · 23/12/2017 23:27

Why did the others repeatedly tell him her age, that seems like an unlikely conversation to have in a nightclub Hmm
I'd take this story with a pinch of salt op it smacks of a professionally offended person

Babysgotyoureyes · 23/12/2017 23:28

What he does in his own time is his business. What are 17 and 16 year olds doing in a nightclub if it's over 18s? If nobody was abused or assaulted I would be inclined to let this go. Don't think it's fair to put this teacher's career at risk over the gossip of a few teenagers.

Rach5l · 23/12/2017 23:31

Was your dd upset he was showing attention to another woman?

FitbitAddict · 23/12/2017 23:54

If the teacher is working in the maintained sector then the following professional standards apply:

Part Two: Personal and professional conduct
A teacher is expected to demonstrate consistently high standards of personal and professional conduct. The following statements define the behaviour and attitudes which set the required standard for conduct throughout a teacher’s career.

  • Teachers uphold public trust in the profession and maintain high standards of
    ethics and behaviour, within and outside school, by:

  • treating pupils with dignity, building relationships rooted in mutual respect, and at all times observing proper boundaries appropriate to a teacher’s professional position

  • having regard for the need to safeguard pupils’ well-being, in accordance with statutory provisions

  • showing tolerance of and respect for the rights of others

  • not undermining fundamental British values, including democracy, the rule of law, individual liberty and mutual respect, and tolerance of those with different faiths and beliefs

  • ensuring that personal beliefs are not expressed in ways which exploit
    pupils’ vulnerability or might lead them to break the law.

MaisyPops · 24/12/2017 08:31

FitbitAddict
Yes. But engaging in perfectly legal socialising does not bring that into question.

I don't drink much, but even if I did and got absolutely wasted, it does not impact on my ability to teach, not would it bring the professioj into disrepute if students saw my amazingly embarrassing drunk dancing.
I've seen some people get annoyed that a teacher was drinking through a willy straw at a hen do. Perfectly legal. Daft fun. But for some professionally offended people thry went straight for 'part 2 standards!!! Won't someone think of the children'

The problem is that some people like to think that part 2 of the standards means 'teachers should behave perfectly at all times out of work and if I don't like what I have seen/heard them do then that counts as bringing the profession into disrepute. So report the teacher.

Thr fact that 16/17 year olds can't handle a nightclub and are desperate for silly gossip means that perhaps their parents should prevent them drinking illegally in over 18 places stead of whipping up drama over what an adult does on a perfectly legal night out.

MyOtherProfile · 24/12/2017 08:38

I suspect the OP won't be letting us know if her dd was there and what she's going to do.

FluffyWuffy100 · 24/12/2017 08:45

Stupid drunk drama lama teenagers in a place they shouldn’t be.... but yet it’s the teacher who is at fault for drinking in a nightclub?

Yeah.

Sounds like he was a bit of an idiot, but he can go out and dance and drink and has a reasonable expectation of women in a nightclub being 18.

MaisyPops · 24/12/2017 08:59

Well said fluffy.
Sure he has been a bit of an idiot, but those teenagers shouldn't have been in there in the first place.
Maybe their parents (if what goes on in clubs is so awful) should spend a little more time stopping their underage children going out rather than encouraging silly drama llama gossip by being outraged from 2nd/3rd/4th hand information from some silly drunk kids.

(Should add, i know lots of us will have gone out underage. That's life. But when you do that and you allow your children to do that then, to me, you lose the 'think of the children!' line)

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