Only 41% want to brexit now, time to vote again asap

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www.google.co.uk/amp/mobile.reuters.com/article/amp/idUSKBN1EA0Q6

Biggest swing towards remain now people are smelling the coffee

Yeah that analogy was no good, jacques.

Julie - please tell me how we will become a self-sufficient economy- this is so exciting!

Others like me stay within my budget

Interesting that you said that. I never suggested I went over budget. "Shitloads" is my budget.

Can we even define a self-sufficient economy?

Its not my job to spoon feed you information

Bwahahahahaha

"Oh crap. In a corner. Wait. I know. I'll try and deflect by telling them to Google".

No Julie, it goes like this:

L: We are leaving the EU so get over it and stop moaning, snowflakes!
R: What about the border in Northern Ireland?
L: Who cares? We voted to leave so Ireland will just have to deal with it.
R: What about the effect on the economy?
L: It will be good for the economy.
R: That's not what any of the experts are saying...
L: Who cares? We're sick of experts.
R: But all the evidence shows that this is not going well.
L: Stop talking down the economy! Why do you have to be so negative?
R: That's not how economics works...
L: I disagree.
R: OK. What will you say if you turn out to be wrong? What if you lose your job?
L: That won't happen.
R: But what if it does?
L: It will be worth it to have sovereignty!
R: What sovereignty? We're going to end up following the same rules without having a say in what they are!
L: No we won't! Project Fear!
R: We will if we want a trade deal.
L: So we'll trade with the rest of the world instead!
R: We already do trade with the rest of the world...
L: Yeah but we'll be able to make our own trade agreements.
R: But they'll be on worse terms than the ones we currently have because we're a smaller and less important market than the EU.
L: It will still be worth it.
R: Why?
L: JUST SHUT UP SHUT UP SHUT UP WAH WAH WAH WE VOTED TO LEAVE THE CORRUPT UNDEMOCRATIC EUSSR SO GET OVER IT REMOANER SNOWFLAKES!!! DEMOCRACY! SOVEREIGNTY! CAKE! UNICORNS! TAKE BACK CONTROL!!!!!!!

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JacquesHammer I have had this discussion of how the economy will work many times with remainers, and it always ends up in a bun fight. So whats the point?

L: "Will we trade with other countries"
R: "You will be forced to eat chlorinated chicken"
L: "We can export more"
R: "We make nothing that anyone wants"

So whats the point because we dont always know how we will overcome obstacles until we start to try. But we can know that we will keep trying until we get over them, or around them, or under them.

Just recently it was said we would never get to trade talks with the EU the obstacles are to many. And yet we did.

Julie, do you know what we had to agree to to get them to agree to start trade talks?

In a nutshell: everything we previously said we wouldn't agree to, including "regulatory equivalence", which for the uninitiated among us means "continuing to follow EU rules but no longer having a seat at the table".

LoveInTokyo LoL, you have the remainers rhetoric down to a tee

The EU have shown their true colours (mafia), so Brexit will still happen and if we leave without a deal, then it's the EU's fault!

Sorry, I just happen to know what I'm talking about, that's all.

Ah we destroy our biggest industry - financial services but we build up other sectors - these however are top secret/only Julie knows what they are.

Julie does represent the brexiteers I know. Not the people who voted leave- many of whom are a bit #awkward - but the brexiteers.

I find them incredible.

do you know what we had to agree to to get them to agree to start trade talks? Yes, a) no hard border in Ireland, which we wanted all along. b) rights for UK and EU citizens, which we wanted all along. c) pay the membership fee to the end of any transition, which is fair enough.

"continuing to follow EU rules but no longer having a seat at the table" a) dont want a seat at the table, we are leaving the EU and b) regulatory equivalence means nothing if we dont agree a trade deal and go onto WTO rules. I think its called a meaningless fudge.

read some of the visions of prominent Brexiteers

“We would immediately be able to start negotiating new trade deals… which could enter into force immediately after the UK leaves the EU” – Chris Grayling

“After we Vote Leave, there won’t be a sudden change that disrupts the economy.” – Boris Johnson, Gisela Stuart and Michael Gove

“The first calling point of the UK’s negotiator will not be Brussels, it will be Berlin, to strike the deal: absolute access for German cars and industrial goods, in exchange for a sensible deal on everything else.” - David Davis

“So within two years, before the negotiation with the EU is likely to be complete, and therefore before anything material has changed, we can negotiate a free trade area massively larger than the EU.” - David Davis

Yeah, right ...

Ah we destroy our biggest industry - financial services
That's just speculation, thrown around to try and stop Brexit.
It sounds no different that the 'apocalypse' that was predicted to hit us the day after a leave vote. Or if we didn't join the Euro. Its just the same old recycled scaremongering.

You keep replying- Why don't you just tell me the good news?

Bullet point it?

Why don't you just tell me the good news?
Because I am not negotiating Brexit. I will tell you the good news in 2019. I guess it will be a pleasant surprise for you to look forward to.

so you've got no idea.

Thank you.

regulatory equivalence means nothing if we dont agree a trade deal and go onto WTO rules.

Well, without regulatory equivalence it means you can’t easily sell anything to our nearest major market. Gravity model and all that.

But I tried to reason with the Remaininacs on here and they wouldn't have it

No. You tried to patronise.

They are truly like cult members

Why? Because those of us who have discussed with you are educated and have a different opinion.

No logic will ever work with them, because they are emotionally attached to the idea that Jean Claude Juncker is God

Please do quote me where I have said that.

Hopefully, they will all move to Juncker town, drink the Kool Aid and die

And still with the totally unfunny attempts at humour. You just look a bit thick champ.

Tough. There wont be another vote.

@buttercup54321

Good point. Well made.

Tough. There wont be another vote

You mean a referendum.

There WILL be a vote in parliament on the final deal.

Humpsfor20yards - so you've got no idea
I am in exactly the same position you are, the difference is I dont pretend stuff is fact when it is just your pessimistic opinion.

If there was to be another referendum, despite being a remain voter, I would vote leave on principle.
You cannot keep having a vote until you get the answer you want, that what dictators do. The country voted leave, we have to deal with that.