Only 41% want to brexit now, time to vote again asap

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www.google.co.uk/amp/mobile.reuters.com/article/amp/idUSKBN1EA0Q6

Biggest swing towards remain now people are smelling the coffee

@LoveInTokyo

I'm glad I have amused you.

Have a lovely day.

I was rather hoping, with your experience of high level talks, that you might be able to share your wisdom. That's what disappoints me.

I'm a bit bored with all the personal insults and the psychological projections, which is good as it's cured me of my addiction to this site.

I do wish you could make your case wth the good grace and charm which you would have instinctively used in your line of work.

I'm a bit bored with all the personal insults and the psychological projections, which is good as it's cured me of my addiction to this site

@Humpsfor20yards

Emoticons are always impressive.

Keep up the good work.

Now, I really must leave now, because I have a life.

My guess is we have seen more than 50% of the damage of Brexit, and we are yet to see any benefits - because we cant as we are still in the EU.

I see it the other way round. It's already damaging our economy and we haven't even left yet. I think it can get a lot, lot worse, and how much depends on whether we end up in a bilateral equivalent of the SM/CU or trading under WTO rules or how far along that scale the final outcome is.

Do I think the result has meant an increase in racism? Yes.

I'm not sure that there is any more racism per se, but it has certainly created a climate where racism and xenophobia are more openly expressed.

The increase in hate crimes following the referendum was shocking.

I was rather hoping, with your experience of high level talks, that you might be able to share your wisdom. That's what disappoints me.

And there I was, thinking I had taken the time to make some fairly detailed posts about the technicalities of Brexit, which you have either ignored or dismissed as rubbish. Oh well, I hope someone else found them useful.

Or if you think I am going to tell you things I know from a work context, which aren't in the public domain and would in any case be a good six months out of date, then I can assure you I have a lot more sense and professional integrity than that!

Once again, if you are "bored with the personal insults", then feel free to set an example by not using silly words like "remainiac".

Until then, the pot and kettle sale is that way --->

Thanks @LoveInTokyo

Once again, if you are "bored with the personal insults", then feel free to set an example by not using silly words like "remainiac".

At the risk of sounding childish, you started it. A million times. full stop. And no returns.

(That's how the Permanent Secretary of the Foreign Office always concludes their arguments)

Yes, you do sound very childish. I suggest not trying to emulate Boris Johnson, as that will be the inevitable outcome. (I assume that's who you were talking about, but he is not in fact the permanent secretary for the FCO. That's his most senior civil servant. He's the Secretary of State for Foreign Affairs.)

What I find so hilarious @OhThisbloodyComputer are your pathetic attempts to goad and be proactive. You haven't said anything of substance regarding the issue we are discussing, even if your position is to Leave you haven't present any cogent or coherent thoughts about it, or anything else for that matter. Just occasionally popping up to declare that no-one should make generalisations about 17 million people unless we know them all... Thanking people for not assuming you are a racist then making very spurious claims about someone playing a 'rape card.'

It reminds me of my high-school debating club, when someone had not a single clue and knew it so reverted to bad humour and diversion. I thought it was pathetic then and I think it's pathetic now.
The only sad thing is in high-school those people didn't get a say in whether or not we should tank our society. Now they do.

You all keep repeating 'It was a democratic vote' as if that just seals the deal. It was a democratic vote based on repeated lies; most of the people who voted were not fully cognisant of the issues involved because the information given out at the time was either untrue or just plain woeful. Now it has become apparent it is having a negative effect on our country, many promises made on the premise we leave are not going to be fulfilled and the ideological view of leaving and being this great independent nation is clearly not going to happen - so the 'democratic vote' was a flawed one.

In any case I have always been wary of leaving large scale political decisions to an electorate who generally don't educate themselves politically and often make political decisions based on stories in The Sun or The Daily Mail. Sometimes we do need those civil servant experts and those academics who KNOW what they are talking about. Democracy isn't at its finest when a political decision that can have ramifications for the country for years to come are based on a slogan pasted on the side of a bus (that isn't even true). On this occasion it would have been prudent to have taken the vote as advisement (as referendums are supposed to be) rather than acting on it in such a bloody irresponsible manner.

@LoveInTokyo
You've assumed wrong. Yet again. What's Boris Johnson got to do with anything?

I'm disappointed that you don't seem to have any sense of humour. Or humility.

You have this massive sense of entitlement. "Look at me! I'm a senior civil servant." You tell us that, but you don't show us.

Any attempt to engage you in any jokey conversation is met with the same rather pompous doggerel.

ditto @vladtheAggriever

In which case that is a bizarre and obviously untrue thing to say about Sir Simon McDonald.

What would you like me to do, email you my last payslip? Leak some official documents? (I couldn't even if I wanted to since I complied with the security policy and didn't keep anything when I left.)

You are a funny little man and no mistake.

Having read through fifteen pages of bile, insults, pettiness and bitching, all I can say is... people honestly want to go through another referendum? I never want to go through another one in my life.

I'll just park this here

www.politicshome.com/news/uk/political-parties/conservative-party/theresa-may/news/91527/fury-brexit-ministers-urge

I'm disappointed that you don't seem to have any sense of humour

@Love strikes me as a very similar type to myself. The type that requires humour to have the very minimum of actual humour to be amusing.

look at me, my penis makes me totes amusing and erudite. You just don't get it. Wah wah wah

I thought he had his work to do?

people honestly want to go through another referendum?

I want Parliament to be able to have the option of voting to remain should the deal not be appropriate.

@Humpsfor20yards

And a LIFE

Thanks lakie

From the article

It will put the power to decide how hard to work back into the hands of the people who matter - the ordinary British worker

What now??

Work and and a life!!!

Nooooo

Should Parliament have the option of overturning a referendum if they don't like the deal offered without referring it back to the people.

Should Parliament have the option of overturning a referendum if they don't like the deal offered without referring it back to the people.

MPs are representatives, not delegates. So the answer is yes.

Not very democratic though is it. Much like the EU.

Of course it is democratic - you do know the definition of democracy?

I won’t rise to the bait of the “undemocratic EU” though.