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Trump thread # 100 “Cannot you see that I, too, have a tall and beautiful person?”

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TheClaws · 16/12/2017 06:25

Roman Emperor Nero wrote the above in a manual titled ‘Care of the Hair’. Nero was tyrannical, vain and cruel, and thought little of the lives of others. He also liked to erect buildings and carve his name into them. Smile if only we could learn well from the past.

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OnTheDarkSideOfTheSpoon · 27/12/2017 08:04

On a happier note

The Hill
@thehill
Hatch spokesman rips newspaper's "unquenchable thirst for clicks" after blistering editorial: hill.cm/LYblj1e

[actually doing any clicking is obviously far too menial for them, mind. They just look at the headlines Grin]

And

POLITICO
@politico
Republicans are bracing for a potentially competitive special election in a usually reliable part of Pennsylvania. politi.co/2zzbTCL

And

FBI Agents Association reports $140K in donations amid Trump criticism

thehill.com/blogs/blog-briefing-room/news/366537-fbi-agents-association-reports-140k-in-donations-amid-trump?amp&__twitter_impression=true

And

Kyle Griffin
@kylegriffin1
Newark's mayor is taking a stand against the recent FCC decision to overturn net neutrality rules.

Ras Baraka has announced that the city's high-speed fiber optic network will continue to prohibit blocking, throttling and fast lanes on its network.

www.axios.com/newark-commits-to-keeping-its-fiber-network-net-neutral-2519349873.html?utm_source=twitter&utm_medium=social&utm_campaign=organic

And

Jezebel
@Jezebel
Do we dare believe Melania Trump's favorite show is "How to Get Away With Murder"? bit.ly/2DV7Jso

lionheart · 27/12/2017 14:11

Trains.

www.haaretz.com/israel-news/1.831466

lionheart · 27/12/2017 14:15

Another source:

'Jerusalem Post reports a train station to be built next to the Western Wall will be named after @realDonaldTrump, per Israeli Transportation Minister Israel Katz.'

OnTheDarkSideOfTheSpoon · 27/12/2017 17:39

Natasha Bertrand
@NatashaBertrand
Mueller's team has reportedly begun to question Republican National Committee staffers about the GOP's joint data operation with the Trump campaign, and whether there was any coordination with Russia

uk.businessinsider.com/mueller-questions-rnc-digital-operation-trump-campaign-russia-2017-12?r=US&IR=T

Lweji · 27/12/2017 17:49

5/9 on the quiz. Could be a lot worse.

Btw, I wonder how that game against Dustin and Tiger went.

lionheart · 27/12/2017 18:17

7/9.

I love any snippets from Mueller's investigation.

OnTheDarkSideOfTheSpoon · 27/12/2017 18:19

Kyle Griffin
@kylegriffin1
Barack Obama and Hillary Clinton remain the most admired man and woman in the United States.

Obama has won the title every years for the last 10 years.

Hillary Clinton has won the title every year for the last 16 years.

news.gallup.com/poll/224672/barack-obama-hillary-clinton-retain-admired-titles.aspx

OnTheDarkSideOfTheSpoon · 27/12/2017 18:24

Lucian Kim
@Lucian_Kim
Breaking: Navalny calls for nationwide protests on Jan. 28 to support election boycott:

OnTheDarkSideOfTheSpoon · 27/12/2017 18:29

Michael Weiss
@michaeldweiss
NEW: I got a hold of a 1989 KGB training manual on how to recruit Americans. (Full doc being uploaded later today.) This text is still classified in Russia because Putin’s spooks still use it:

<a class="break-all" href="https://amp.thedailybeast.com/the-kgb-papers-how-putin-learned-his-spycraft-part-1#click=t.co/RZLgYzlEOF" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">amp.thedailybeast.com/the-kgb-papers-how-putin-learned-his-spycraft-part-1#click=t.co/RZLgYzlEOF

OnTheDarkSideOfTheSpoon · 27/12/2017 18:40

Russia is accusing the US of 'direct interference' in its elections

amp.businessinsider.com/russia-accuses-us-election-interference-putin-trump-2017-12?__twitter_impression=true

lionheart · 27/12/2017 18:42

10 questions as you fall through the rabbit hole.

www.theguardian.com/us-news/2017/dec/27/trump-president-journalists-questions-2017

OnTheDarkSideOfTheSpoon · 27/12/2017 18:59

Washington Post
@washingtonpost
Federal prosecutors in New York requested Kushner Cos. records on Deutsche Bank loan

www.washingtonpost.com/amphtml/politics/federal-prosecutors-in-new-york-requested-kushner-cos-records-on-deutsche-bank-loan/2017/12/27/b1e45008-ea79-11e7-8a6a-80acf0774e64_story.html?__twitter_impression=true

OnTheDarkSideOfTheSpoon · 27/12/2017 19:02

Republican Candidate Goes Full Nazi: Jews "Pretend" to be White to Undermine the White Race

Paul Nehlen is openly spewing white nationalist hate speech as he runs to unseat Paul Ryan. He won't be the last.

thedailybanter.com/.amp/2017/12/paul-nehlen-anti-semitism/?__twitter_impression=true

Joyce Alene
@JoyceWhiteVance
Pro-Trump candidate drops dog whistles & goes full bore anti-Semitic. For GOP who were ok w/Moore in AL, this is what comes next. For the rest of us, time to stand up & say we won’t accept this. Whether it’s Jews, Muslims, LGBTQ or immigrants, Not OK.

Hend Amry
@LibyaLiberty
'Nehlen and his hate speech are not outliers, they're a sign of things to come. Republicans allowed white nationalism to take root and flourish in their party and they haven't even begun to harvest that bitter crop.'

PerkingFaintly · 27/12/2017 19:15

Fucking hell.

PerkingFaintly · 27/12/2017 19:20

From Pain's Daily Banter link:

When my mother-in-law bragged about voting for Trump and I told my wife that I wouldn't be speaking to her mother again for the rest of her life, she didn't understand why. I had to explain to her that it doesn't matter who white nationalists say they hate today, sooner or later, they'll always come for her Jewish husband and her Jewish children because we're not "pure" enough to live among them. This is what the first stages of that look like.

Last year, Nehlen was much more careful about his bigotry, sticking with the usual right wing standbys of hating Muslims and immigrants.

He primaried Paul Ryan as part of the alt-right but didn't go all in on the white nationalist language.

He got annihilated.

But now that Trump has given his presidential seal of approval to white nationalism, Nehlen has dropped any pretense of being your average, run-of-the-mill bigot and he wants Trump's followers to know that he's really one of them.

Lately, Nehlen's been tweeting "It's okay to be white" which is what white nationalists have been telling themselves because they like to pretend that white people are "under attack" for being white. The reality is that white right wingers are under attack for being racist assholes but they live to feel persecuted so good luck convincing them otherwise.

PerkingFaintly · 27/12/2017 19:25

BTW, I followed the links to Paul Nehlen's Twitter account. He really does claim a Jewish person is "pretending to be white".

And the replies to his Tweets are full-on anti-Semitic crap. Presumably Nehlen didn't author those, but he's attracting them and not blocking the authors. So...

ImtheChristmasCarcass · 27/12/2017 21:12

Mind you, I've been drinking DH's excellent Margaritas so this may be a bit incoherent.

Seems to me that Nehlen will be a bellwether for the future of the US. Moore as a paedophile was bad enough. But if an openly white supremacist can run as a GOP candidate, not a 'fringe party' but a fucking GOP candidate, then things are much worse than I thought they were.

Back to the Margaritas

OnTheDarkSideOfTheSpoon · 27/12/2017 21:35

Margarita’s sound like a good plan Gin

Kyle Griffin
@kylegriffin1
Trump’s legal team plans to cast Michael Flynn as a liar seeking to protect himself if he accuses the president or his senior aides of any wrongdoing, three people familiar with the strategy tell WaPo.

<a class="break-all" href="https://www.washingtonpost.com/amphtml/politics/trump-legal-team-readies-attack-on-flynns-credibility/2017/12/27/bc601324-ea78-11e7-b698-91d4e35920a3_story.html#click=t.co/Ylj1LSr27u" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">www.washingtonpost.com/amphtml/politics/trump-legal-team-readies-attack-on-flynns-credibility/2017/12/27/bc601324-ea78-11e7-b698-91d4e35920a3_story.html#click=t.co/Ylj1LSr27u

Elizabeth de la Vega
@Delavegalaw
Of course, Trump's team will cast Flynn as a liar & they have good ammunition. This is precisely why the Mueller team will corroborate every detail & put together a case that - surprise! - may not require Flynn's testimony at all. Used this strategy many times as a prosecutor.

OnTheDarkSideOfTheSpoon · 27/12/2017 21:39

Ed Krassenstein
@EdKrassen
US Secret Service spokeswoman Cathy Milhoan says that this truck that tried blocking @CNN from recording President Trump golfing was not commissioned by the Secret Service. So my question is, why did the secret service allow a box truck this close to Trump while he was golfing?

mobile.twitter.com/EdKrassen/status/946109455833460736/video/1

lionheart · 27/12/2017 22:26

Margaritas all round.

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