To be angry at photos at Nativity?

[MrsAnamCara]

Just seen DC infant nativity. We were sent out letters, went to the office yo get tickets, had texts to remind people-all fine and well. No mention of needing permission to take photos/videos. Nothing mentioned before the start of the actual nativity performance either. The performance starts and several people whip their phones out and begin taking photos and videos but not of individual children, of all of the children on stage. It goes on throughout the performance and I can see in their view finder they are filming/recording video of 5+ children... A parent the right if the school Hall is stood filming the entire performance.

No one said they weren't allowed to but...neither was the guardian or parent of every single child asked either.

In my D's nursery, they asked for written permission, and if only one parent didn't give permission then no one was allowed to take photos or videos. Even if we were allowed, then it was photos and videos of your child only (zoom in) and if there were other children then you couldn't post it on social media and send to anyone else.

It really ruined the performance for me, as I don't know these people who are taking videos/photos of my child, I don't know where they will post them or send them to, I don't know who will see that photo or video. I did not give anyone permission to take his photo or record him?

I'm I being unreasonable to think the school should have asked for legal written permission for all children's parents or guardian's? And if some parents don't agree or give permission then that's too bad.

I was trying to understand your point Sirzy. I now realise you were just being condensing by trying to explain something to me that was irrelevant to the point I was making and that I clearly already understand as evidenced by my posts.

But you carry on being all chippy about it if you like

I have no footage of my eldest in any of his school plays because of a ban of footage and photos because of someone objecting, Its totally annoying even not being able to zoom in on your own child and film them in their school play and a memory I wont be able to relive over again by watching it.

My son recently left primary. He was presented with a year book with an A4 spread for each child showing their school memories, play photos, performances, sports day pics etc. One poor child out of 30 never had any photos at all in the book as her mother had not given permission whilst she was had been in school. In this case, there was no good reason and I really felt for her not being included in that book. I think she regretted it at that point.

Condescending.

Personally I wouldn’t rather forgo the photo (you still have the memory) than put a child at risk in danger Chocolate

Personally I would rather forgo the photo (you still have the memory) than put a child at risk in danger Chocolate

I do agree that where photos of the production can’t be taken due to a safe guarding risk there should be photo opportunities at the end.

Sorry my phone isn’t working properly!

Anyone who objects to basic safeguarding policies should withdraw their children from group performances. That way vulnerable DC remain protected and you're not missing out on recording precious memories. Win win. No?

At my DD's school we are allowed to take photos and videos but we're not allowed to post them on any social media unless other children in the photo are edited out. Seems to work well.

My children's school permits parents and carers to take photos and videos, but asks that they're not shared on social media.

This is pretty okay by me, although I'd be more cautious if my children were those whose images shouldn't be shared.

It's really difficult, I think especially for people with families overseas etc. But safeguarding should always, always be the priority.

At my children's school we used to be able to take photos with the caveat that we wouldn't put them on social media. This year there are two year groups where parents have not given permission for photos, so we are not allowed to take photos of events involving those children. However at the end of the nativity we were allowed to take photos after the photo-refusing years had left the room. On reflection I'm happy with a few photos at the end rather than everyone constantly filming during the performance.

We allow photos at our school but the HT requests they are not used on social media. She can't control that though. Please try to remember that a photo of your child in a costume is innocent and the vast majority of people in this world think the same, especially other parents at a nativity. I think it's really sad that you let that ruin your child's performance.

I agree with a previous poster who stated that if your need to photograph your child is so great then you should withdraw them from productions and just take pictures for half an hour. It allows vulnerable children to take part in school life without the risk of being outed on social media, and it also means the rest of us don’t have to put up with you standing up and waving your fucking phone in the air to get a decent shot of your child. All round wining.

I don't believe we have any safeguarding issues in dd's year at primary, but at our school the event is videoed by the school and you can purchase a dvd if you like.

The children are also photographed in small groups (shepherds, angels etc...) and you can purchase the photos. They then ask parents not to photograph or video, more for people's enjoyment than any safeguarding reasons.

I guess parents could share these on social media but I've never seen anyone do it.

It works well.

What happens if your child is actually seen in public OP? With real eyes by random strangers? At a beach? In the swimming pool? Get a grip!

So, to summarise:

I don't care about other people and I don't care about other people, and wah, wah, I don't care about other people

Oh, I also forgot: can't be arsed to RTFT. I don't care about other people

The school should have hired an official photographer and videographet and charged anyone that wanted copies £200 each. It's the only way to keep the children safe

The school should have hired an official photographer and videographet and charged anyone that wanted copies £200 each. It's the only way to keep the children safe

MsHarry, the risk is about someone who is/may be a risk to that child being able to identify them. Just a glimpse of a school's name or badge will tell someone of their rough geographical area and what times of day they will be entering and leaving this particular school.

I know this Chrstina but the school would know if they had a child in that situation. OP doesn't say this affects her child.

MsHarry The issue of something being linked to a school is that puts a vulnerable child in an extremely identifiable, regular, location.

A few birth parents of adopted children, or adults that have been fled from due to DV can be very determined to try to locate their child. With image recognition technology getting forever better it is a real risk for some children.

In the OPs case, it seems to me that she has a real concern, but it is currently unclear from her posts what permissions she has given the school and whether she has spoken to the school.

In general though, your desire to film your child doing a school play, does not trump my child's need for privacy, or their right to feel safe in school.

BTW YANBU, OP

Yes Teen see my post above yours.