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To be worn down (Trans related)

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WillowWept · 10/12/2017 15:09

Firstly there’ll be a few of you that say IABU for not sticking this in feminism. I make no apology: people need to know this.

The slide attached is from a CPS endorsed school training programme. It’s in schools now

The training supports any boy to access girls’ private spaces, based only on his own self-declared ‘gender identity’ and enforces the idea that to challenge this is a hate crime.

Girls are being taught to ignore their boundaries - the same ones that all parents work so hard to instil so as not to commit a crime. Putting men’s feelings before their physical safety.

We’re setting up our girls for horrific abuse I’m so tired of fighting this.

To be worn down  (Trans related)
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ThumbWitchesAbroad · 12/12/2017 17:01

"All this new law will do is tell us that the gender stereotypes that have developed over the years and that some people have fearfully stuck to are, in fact, natural law. When they are not. You can have a penis and wear eyeliner or cry at Love Actually. And you can have a vagina and drink pints and swear like a trooper. And you can be either a boy or a girl and you can do both (I do).

That is what really worries me about it."

And me too. I was another tomboy, although I did wear dresses because parents wouldn't let me not; but I wasn't interested in "girly" pursuits, particularly. I still don't bother myself with most outward trappings of "femininity" unless I'm going out in the evening - but I absolutely am female and would not want to be otherwise.

This is what really pisses me off - the idea that it's so polarised, being male and being female - that you must be stereotypically female or stereotypically male or you're "in the wrong body". No! Fuck off! it's a sliding scale of individual preferences and it's only stupid societal "norms" which have forced this separation.

It scares me too. A lot. I think children these days have a lot more to contend with, what with social media, constant streaming of information and chat with friends that never happened before the influx of home computers - no getting away from anything now. And now this too! :(

MyWhatICallNameChange · 12/12/2017 17:16

I've said before how much I wanted to be a boy, how I called myself by a boys name, refused to wear dresses/skirts (only for school because back then girls weren't allowed to wear trousers)

I hated going through puberty, my periods started when I was 10, my breasts got big pretty quickly too. If Puberty blockers and chest binding had been a thing then I would have jumped at the chance. Everything i'd always wanted come true!

In the end as I reached my mid teens I accepted myself, definitely fancied boys, was a girl, albeit one who only wore jeans and tees, never wore make up etc.

Even now I mainly wear jeans, occasionally leggings with a dress, still don't wear make up (feels horrible to me) but I'm still heterosexual and though I'm not keen on my breasts still they've done a grand job feeding my kids.

Imagine being like that these days and then never having the chance to have kids because you've damaged your body with puberty blockers and a mastectomy, all because you didn't like wearing dresses or make up or playing with "girls" toys. Or actually wanted to be a boy but instead of your parents just letting you get on with being "you" you were made to believe you could be a boy. When you bloody can't!

StarOnTheTopOfTheTree · 12/12/2017 18:11

And all of this is common sense. And we can all see it because it's really fucking obvious.

Which makes me wonder about the agendas and vested interests held by those who are pushing it through.

Because I actually think that if I had any reasonable, half intelligent person in front me and said to them

"do you think we should let a 6ft man should be in sole care of a severely disabled, non verbal woman, taking care of all her personal care needs, including changing sanitary protection" they would say, "Good Heavens, of course not that's outrageous". And if I then said, "How about if we put him in a dress and called him A Woman?" They would look at me like I'd lost the plot and say, "but he'd still be a man"...

Why are the same half intelligent people currently saying otherwise?

If it weren't necessary for these protections to be in place then they wouldn't be in the first place.

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