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That Britain should rethink BREXIT

652 replies

WallisofWindsor · 06/12/2017 12:14

David Davis admitting that the impact of Brexit will be equal to the credit crunch should surely make the country revisit the decision.
Why put your country through such a difficult period?

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user1486062886 · 06/12/2017 13:36

I must admit I am deeply shocked that the government gave the option to the public to vote on leaving the EU without first working on a plan to implement the leave vote, It now seems no plan on the implications of leaving were carried out, It seems the EU is a bit like the hotel California, You can check in but you can never leave, It is so entwined,
You can blame the leavers all you like, they gave an answer to a question, it’s up to the government to implement it, shouldn’t of ask the question if it can’t be achieved, should of thought of that first.
I truly believe if the government know that if it is not a good idea to leave the EU( I don’t know) they have a duty for the good of Uk to stop it and explain why, Yes it might cost them the next parliament, but it will ( maybe) for the good of the people.

SeekEveryEveryKnownHidingPlace · 06/12/2017 13:36

Only fucking idiots just accept there's a cliff there just because someone says "there's a cliff there"

Only fucking idiots refuse to accept there's a cliff there when the cliff is manifestly clear

Hatsoffdear · 06/12/2017 13:36

I fear SeekEvery has put it in a nutshell.

GoingIn · 06/12/2017 13:37

I'd love to see grown ups in charge of this country. People who would not be so keen to jump off a cliff without proper equipment so to speak.

wasonthelist · 06/12/2017 13:39

So shall we have another referendum?

RubMyRhubarb · 06/12/2017 13:40

Only fucking idiots refuse to accept there's a cliff there when the cliff is manifestly clear

Congratulations on doing exactly what I just criticized. Asserting the existence of the cliff is not demonstrating or evidencing the cliff. I'm not saying the cliff doesn't exist, I'm asking you to demonstrate that it does - your claim - you prove it.

specialsubject · 06/12/2017 13:40

We seem to be stuck in a club that we can neither change nor leave. Both options seem impossible - which is why the vote was an impossible choice.

Lots wrong with the EU, as well as lots right with it. Anyone saying their side is 100% right is deluded.

user1486062886 · 06/12/2017 13:43

That is very true specialsubject

SeekEveryEveryKnownHidingPlace · 06/12/2017 13:46

Congratulations on doing exactly what I just criticized. Asserting the existence of the cliff is not demonstrating or evidencing the cliff. I'm not saying the cliff doesn't exist, I'm asking you to demonstrate that it does - your claim - you prove it

Oh my god. The cliff, then, is the trade that will not happen, the goods that will not be imported/exported, the jobs that cannot be taken, the 'brexodus' that is already happening, the companies that are leaving or not coming in the first place, the deals that won't happen (with India and the US, for example), the hard border in Ireland, the farming we can't do on our own and the shelves we can't stock with UK produce at affordable prices, the expertise that won't come here, the expertise that will leave....

If only one could demonstrate or evidence the cliff to Brexiteers before we are all at the bottom of it, but I fear even when the stupid pricks are lying dazed on the rocks below, they'll still deny that their broken necks are anything to do with any cliff that may or may not have been there.

Frequency · 06/12/2017 13:48

No side can be 100% right but one side can be 100% unfathomable.

It's sheer madness from what I can see.

We know the EU isn't perfect, fine I accept that. but what doesn't make sense is why we decided to leave when there's no clear benefit to leaving.

We understand the risks - the economy tanking, peace in NI being disrupted, industry and agriculture being obliterated and we've decided to take those risks for what? What do we stand to gain from Brexit?

No-one seems to be able to answer that.

PostNotInHaste · 06/12/2017 13:49

The existence of a cliff edge is something that the Brexit Impact papers that David Davis had allegedly briefed May on though she had not read every detail he claimed. Those are the same impact reports that today he claims allegedly don't exist. So option 1 is we don't know there is a cliff edge as no one in the UK could be arsed to find out or there is and it's so bad he would rather take potentially losing job or imprisonment than admit it.

I think at this point whether you voted remain or leave you have to ask yourself who the fuck are these people who have ended up leading this country and where on earth is this clusterfuck going to end up?

megletthesecond · 06/12/2017 13:49

Yanbu. It's turning into the carnage I suspected it would be. Someone needs to have the guts to stand up and say we should not do this to ourselves.

RubMyRhubarb · 06/12/2017 13:49

even when the stupid pricks are lying dazed on the rocks below

I was going to address your post, because it was quite interesting right up to the point where you said that. (insert inane comment about how what you've said is irrefutable and I just won't address you because I'm too thick)

Vitalogy · 06/12/2017 13:52

Please stop, you're embarrassing yourselves. Enough already.

abilockhart · 06/12/2017 13:52

Obviously, it would be silly at this stage to stop and actually think about what we are about to do. Why not just take our chances?? !

Humpsfor20yards · 06/12/2017 13:53

I can't imagine being a brexitteer and watching David Davis and still thinking Brexit is going to be a good thing for this country.

I mean, how, how do you think that?

Theworldisfullofidiots · 06/12/2017 13:54

It's going to be worse than the credit crunch and last longer

JacquesHammer · 06/12/2017 13:55

even when the stupid pricks are lying dazed on the rocks below

It still won't be the fault of Brexit. It will be the fault of Remainers for "just not getting behind it enough"

Humpsfor20yards · 06/12/2017 13:55

Thing is, I am not sure there are many people who voted leave who will admit it was a bad idea.

I know two once-proud leave voters, who have since lied to me that they voted remain. (one was my brother!)
That's what everyone will do.

Theworldisfullofidiots · 06/12/2017 13:57

My dh said that last night. Apparently leavers think optimism will get us through. Bugger a coherent plan or strategy. We just have to will it. It's like a nationwide version of cosmic ordering

RichardRichieRichard · 06/12/2017 13:58

Yanbu, it's an absolute disaster Sad

Theworldisfullofidiots · 06/12/2017 13:58

No bugger will have voted leave in 20 years time.

Original poster
WallisofWindsor · 06/12/2017 13:59

No answer for me then? Let me try again-
What was Britain losing as a member of the EU? Was it so bad?
(I only ask because I am not British nor EU national)

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Hissy · 06/12/2017 14:01

Hissy

Perhaps, if you can't manage the entire post, you could read the very next line before jumping the gun and making your self look rather silly? Ever heard of sarcasm?

Oh, HUGE apologies...

Sarcasm IS the very lowest form of wit.

as evidenced by the REST of your posts...

Humpsfor20yards · 06/12/2017 14:02

No bugger will have voted leave in 20 years time.

Exactly.

Brexit was never going to be easy - who ever said it would be?

Eh, Liam Fox said it was going to be the easiest deal in human history.

All the threads on the referendum are here for people to see: I can remember leavers saying it would all be sorted in months. Remainers worries were dismissed as project fear. So yes, lots of people said it would be easy.