That Britain should rethink BREXIT

[WallisofWindsor]

David Davis admitting that the impact of Brexit will be equal to the credit crunch should surely make the country revisit the decision.
Why put your country through such a difficult period?

Well no, that was the whole point of having a referendum. Whatever happened to a stiff upper lip? The whole country needs to grow some balls. It's not like we are living in colonial America on the cusp of war, we are just existing a treaty. It's really not a big deal, the vast majority of the world gets on very well outside of the EU. If the British spent less time wringing their hands and more time damaging their their government goes out and has trade talks with non-eu countries this really wouldn't be such a drama.

You don't revisit stuff in your professional or personal life when new info comes to light?

Nope, never. Ever.

Of course, but I don't feel it's a fair comparison to make. This is something that the public, as a whole voted on. It's not some "whoops I filed that in the wrong drawer, better move it" thing.

Nobody is claiming that 52% is a landslide victory, but it is nonetheless a win for leave. What somehow magical number would you need to see before you'd drop the "but it was close" thing? 53%? 54%? 99%?

I think Brexit is going to be to blame for everything in the next few decades that goes wrong with this country.

It's a great distraction from lots of other pressing issues.

In all honesty, with all the information that is coming out now with regards to things that will actually change (for better or for worse) I think a hell of a lot of people would change their vote.

I don't remember seeing any info about a 50 billion euro divorce bill or Northern Ireland being treated differently to the rest of the UK. That's info which should have been known in the campaigns.

Of course we should rethink it. Every aspect of it is madness. Poorly conceived, poorly planned, poorly explained, poorly executed and administered by people who've done nothing but lie, lie some more and insisted it would be easy.

It's a shambles, we are a laughing stock.

There is no reason at all to continue with what feels like a suicide mission. We need to stop and have a rethink. Turf the duplicitous bastards out of office.

I'm not saying give up on Brexit entirely, but this kind of brexit, administered by this government is a disaster.

Please please Britain, just get on with the Brexit. The rest of the world is sick of this farce you created and I think Britain lost lots of credibility with the Brexit circus, starting with the legendary Farage's bus, admitting that the Russians influenced the referendum but it still stands, watching the institutions leave Britain but still claim it's all hunky-dory and believing that the increasing poverty, snottiness of the higher classes and the decline of the North and other neglected areas will have a miraculous reverse once Britain is out of the EU and all cheap immigrants were sent packing to where they came from.
Let Britain be the isolationist country doing everything on your own again. And let's watch the DUP manipulating the whole of the UK the way they want.
Brexit voters let the UK's future depend on the posh boys from the upper class who don't give a fuck about whether the poorest starve to death and what happens beyond London (unless it's their country estates) and religious bigoted evolution deniers who believe in dinosaurs being Adam and Eve's pets. Congratulations.

Whatever happened to a stiff upper lip?

Really? You're thinking we should get on with Brexit in some outdated method with throwbacks to Victoriana?

It's a shambles, we are a laughing stock.

Who is laughing?

The rest of the world.

What somehow magical number would you need to see before you'd drop the "but it was close" thing? 53%? 54%? 99%?

Well I don't know, Nigel Farage suggested a 4% victory wouldn't be acceptable for Remain and another referendum would be required.

....because the country voted out. Democracy in action. I support the decision.

Rub it should have required a two thirds majority to enact change.

I wouldn't be telling anyone to stfu if it had been reversed with the same vote percentage, because I do actually understand democracy and that it doesn't start and end in the polling booth then everyone shuts up forever. I would have said a close victory for Remain would have shown that a great many people were unhappy and that their concerns needed to be addressed. The attitude of 'we win, you lose, shut up forever' is pretty unedifying and displays a fundamental ignorance of the basic tenets of democracy.

WTF?

“religious bigoted evolution deniers who believe in dinosaurs being Adam and Eve's pets. Congratulations.”

The rest of the world.

Like who? Americans? With their president? Countries within the EU? Like France who has a large far-right party making considerable gain? Germany? Whose government IS currently an 'absolute shambles', much more compared to ours? Or is this meant to be one of those the EU is lovely and wonderful and Britain is wicked and racist comments?

....because the country voted out. Democracy in action

It was advisory. Nothing to make it legally binding.

Democracy doesn't mean "fuck the country over for the sake of not revisiting an issue"

Well I don't know, Nigel Farage suggested a 4% victory wouldn't be acceptable for Remain and another referendum would be required.

People would listen to Nigel Farage's call for a second referendum as much as they listed to Nick Clegg's call for a second referendum. Maybe we can revisit this in 40 years time.

There is no plan, no impact assessments have been done, the negotiations are stalling, we will end up out of Europe with no trade deal - no impact assessment or plan for this either. It's an omnishambles of the highest order and I cannot for the life of me understand why Brexiteers cannot see this and I'm really not being goady.

If you read the international press you might get it, but I presume you stick to the red tops

People would listen to Nigel Farage's call for a second referendum as much as they listed to Nick Clegg's call for a second referendum

You honestly think Leavers would have said "sure democracy has spoken?"

Don't be foolish

Shall we have a another referendum then?

You honestly think Leavers would have said "sure democracy has spoken?"

I would have and if I was still going on about this all these months later I'd be seriously looking into moving to a country that isn't in the EU.

Just Britain? What about the rest of the UK, you know, like the bit most royally shafted by it?

I don't remember seeing any info about a 50 billion euro divorce bill or Northern Ireland being treated differently to the rest of the UK. That's info which should have been known in the campaigns

It was all there. You, like most people, just didn't care enough to pay attention.

religious bigoted evolution deniers who believe in dinosaurs being Adam and Eve's pets.

Any better description for the DUP when it comes to their religious beliefs? I'm not even going into their notion of a nation.

Ahhh, Clandestino, you meant the DUP... it read as if you were referring generally to the brexit voters. My mistake.

I voted remain.

However, the argument that the majority was tiny irritates me. It was a majority. Had the majority been in favour of remaining with the same figures then you wouldn't hear the remainers crying that it was such a tiny majority! It would still have been a majority to them. It's hypocritical to argue differently.

We should never have had a referendum because, and I mean this in the nicest sense, not enough people understood the complexities of what they were being asked to vote for or against. You can't expect people to vote rationally with regards to something they know very little about.