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Meghan and Harry don't look right together

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bungle99 · 04/12/2017 18:32

I was in small shop earlier with only 4 of us in their. I am a regular customer.
I heard a member of staff who was serving another customer talking about Meghan and Harry and staff member said they don't really look right together and that she's not an English Rose like Kate Middleton. I was really shocked by this because 1) that people of my generation actually think like this (middle age) 2) that she admitted this view out loud knowing i could actually hear it (i'm not white). I was only 3 feet away.

AIBU to think that this was a racist comment and that most white people do not think like this ? Please restore my faith Mumsnet.

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Awwlookatmybabyspider · 08/12/2017 10:40

People say me and dp don't match. I don't think people mean any upset by it. Plus opposites attrack as they say.

Humpsfor20yards · 08/12/2017 10:53
Grin
Deathraystare · 08/12/2017 11:16

Quite bizarre to suggest she isn't like Kate. They look similar to me. In fact the fail ran an article in the last few days implying that pippa and Meghan were clones.

I think they all look very similar. Good luck to her she will need it!. Dunno why he HAS to marry an English Rose. Worked out well for Charlie didn't it??!!

LostMyMojoSomewhere · 08/12/2017 13:41

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RoseWhiteTips · 08/12/2017 13:49

Humpsfor20yards

Flowerpot can also be found spreading her hate on the Alexandra Burke thread or weeping for joy, yes, really, over brexit.
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Your behaviour is distinctly odd.

RoseWhiteTips · 08/12/2017 13:50

Harry and Meghan’s noses appear to have a bit like the noses of boxers. They are very much the same, though.

RoseWhiteTips · 08/12/2017 13:51

...to be a bit like

Bettercallsaul1 · 08/12/2017 19:02

Flowerpot

Of course the woman that the OP overheard was using the term. "English Rose" as a synonym for White/Caucasian. She was implying that a Black/mixed race woman was not a fitting spouse for white/Caucasian Prince Harry. There is, unfortunately, a section of people in this country who are racist and who would genuinely agree with this view. Why do you find it so extraordinary that the OP ran into one of them?

You say that ^The speaker didn't obviously mean Caucasian, they obviously meant English Rose ... a specific look familiar with English Culture and add, to me, I know you desperately want to see racism everywhere you look.

It is not me desperately wanting to see racism everywhere - but, on the contrary, you trying, for some reason, to deny it when it's quite obviously there. The OP, who started this thread and who heard, not only the words spoken but also the tone in which they were spoken said the following:

saying that a couple don't look right because she is not an English Rose like Kate Middleton, is implying that they don't look right because she's not English or white.

That is the OP's own interpretation which was supported by almost every poster commenting on the thread apart from you and perhaps two others. As you are so fond of statistics, you may want to go through the thread and check this for yourself. Are you seriously saying that the OP and the vast majority on the thread are desperately trying to see racism where it doesn't exist and only you, the enlightened one, see "the truth"?

You say, of the speaker - If they meant Caucasian, they would have said white. Nonsense - very few people, no matter how strong their racist views, would actually say out loud, in a public place, Meghan and Harry don't look right together - she's not white like Kate Middleton. She would obviously cloak it in euphemism, like most racists have learned to do, in public, to avoid a possible adverse reaction.

The implication of this racist remark is that inter-racial marriage is undesirable and not "right". The regimes I quoted, including the apartheid regime in South Africa, also held this belief (amongst others) and I think it's salutary to remind ourselves that societies, founded on racism, actualIy have existed not that long ago. I very much doubt that reading this really "made you laugh out loud".

CharisMama · 08/12/2017 23:27

Im white and I see racism in the comment.

Louise56 · 05/05/2018 06:45

PRinces in past times commonly married foreign princesses, not 'English Roses'. THere is nothing remarkable in Harry marrying a foreigner, though the shopkeeper may not be aware of that. MAny English people are not well up on history.

ImNotMeImSomeoneElse · 05/05/2018 06:54

ZOMBIE ALERT

mathanxiety · 05/05/2018 07:11

Bubblebubblepop Mon 04-Dec-17 19:04:04
I wouldn't really assume that racist tbh. Even if you are a racist Meghan doesn't really look mixed race, she's very light skinned

Wondering where to start here.

Dying a little inside...

foxyloxy78 · 05/05/2018 07:47

Meghan looks just like Pippa.

mrcharlie · 05/05/2018 07:54

Well I'm not a Royalist at all.

I think modern day Royals are a joke
Just a media circus show that generates parking charges and hotdog sales wherever they go

After our current Queen, who I admit has been amazing I think Royalty should be put out to pasture.
The worlds changed, we now have commoners breeding with the aristocracy - I always thought Royalty stipulated against such acts.

Harry and Meghan can do whatever they want, none of my business. But I don't see why they should live a life of pure opulence simply because harrys ancestors were better killers!! That's the bottom line is it not??

Louise56 · 09/05/2018 16:04

since we have to have a head of state, I am quite satisfied to have a monarch rather than a president, who would not cost any less in any case, and be so much less interesting. And marrying commoners is pretty standard for royalty now, since there are not enough other royal families around to provide enough spouses.

The80sweregreat · 09/05/2018 16:11

I hope any children will look like her and not much like dad!
I’m not convinced it will last tbh but nothing to do with her heritage - I just think she will struggle not having the freedom to do what she wants. My mum said the same about Diana from day one and was proved right!
Still, let’s hope I’m wrong!

UserV · 09/05/2018 16:34

ZOMBIE thread alert!

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