To think my weight is no ones buisness but my own

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I'm obese and happy with it but other people seem to have an issue with it. I've, stupidly, confided in a few people that I've been warned that I have a high blood sugar level and my doctor has said I'm classified as having prediabetes. But I'm very happy with my life and my body. Other people are now dropping huge suggestions on things I should change and stop doing. Surely it's my choice what I do with my life and people should just worry about themselves?

YABVU.

I don’t care about anyone’s weight on a scale or appearance but your health is very important for not only you but those who love you.

You can't even be serious John.

Fat people have gone from 10% to 70% of adults in a generation, diabetes has similarly shot up but yet everyone with diabetes has some kind of excuse

Yes I am serious. It is a lie to say that they are the main reason the NHS is at breaking point.

Fat people have gone from 10% to 70% of adults in a generation, diabetes has similarly shot up but yet everyone with diabetes has some kind of excuse

Well yes, some people do have an excuse, especially if you're talking about Type1 diabetes for example.

No one said the main and only reason. But it is a very big reason.

No one was talking about T1. Either evolution has started happening at blistering speed or these illnesses are lifestyle. The softly softly approach with obesity is not working

"They're a business doing jt under the guise of healthy eating"

It's not like they pretend not to be a business is it? Do you dislike every business? Do you shop in profit-making shops, for example?
I believe the NHS now has its own non-profit slimming club.

The average age of the population is going up.

An increasingly frail, ageing, population with previously deadly conditions that increasingly can be treated as chronic health problems; like chronic heart failure and kidney failure are indeed a massive 'drain'.

The NHS is treating conditions that would never have been seen before the patients died of 'old age'.

Dementia is killing more people now when before, it would have been a heart condition, cancer or an industrial disease that killed people off before they went ga-ga.

The sedentary lifestyle that many of us now experience is relatively new.

We're not exercised, food is plentiful and most of us have little need to work in back breaking manual labour. Even cleaners and warehouse staff have manual aids, powered devices and protective gear.

We are exhibiting the illnesses of old age far earlier than the generation before us. Type 2 diabetes, hip, knee and other joint problems, cancers, endocrine and vascular diseases are rife in people in their 30s, 40s and 50s, when before, it was 40s, 50s and 60s.

The common denominator is obesity.

There are eleven year olds with Type 2 FFS!! Genetic predisposition aside, that's fucking scandalous.

I'm supposed to be trying to lose weight. My blood pressure is far too high.

I've just had 100g of milk chocolate. 552 calories, 35.2g fat of which 22.3g is saturates. 48.3g of carbohydrates of which 47.1g is sugar. It went down like it was nothing. That's done me no good at all.

I am suffering from hip and ankle problems which losing weight would also help alleviate.

We are eating the wrong foods, in too great quantities and doing no exercise worth a damn.

The NHS is spending huge sums of money on obesity and the consequences are horrifying. We are not getting healthier and unless we start getting our fat arses into gear, we may well have reached the limits of life expectancy.

www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2017/05/30/nhs-now-spending-obesity-hip-operations-elderly/

It's not like they pretend not to be a business is it? Do you dislike every business?

Yes they do, and no I don't that's just silly , I dislike businesses that take advantage of vulnerable people who's money would be better spent elsewhere. Weight watchers, slimming world and Janes plan and all the rest of them come under that category.

We're not exercised, food is plentiful and most of us have little need to work in back breaking manual labour. Even cleaners and warehouse staff have manual aids, powered devices and protective gear.

Food is plentiful? Is that why we've got a record number of foodbanks being used?

Who's the 'we' in we're? Plenty of people use the same two mile school run I do (walking). Cyclists and dog walkers etc. Not all warehouse staff have manual aids, when I worked in one everything was done by hand. Those that do need it because some things are too heavy for adults to lift it doesn't make them lazy. Plenty of people still work in back breaking manual labour, right now, theres two building sites having a new housing estate built on each. It looks anything but sedentary when I pass.

The softly softly approach with obesity is not working

Neither is telling people they're a drain on the NHS

It isn't a very big reason. The fake facts have already been disproven.

The NHS is struggling because it had its budget CUT, not because someone had one too many kebabs.

Peoples willful delusion to ignore the blindingly obvious just so they can have a sanctimonious dig at someone online, when they'd never dream of doing it to a smoker or an alcoholic is staggeringly breathtaking.

I really disagree, Jon. You are advocating not taking the full effect of personal responsibility. It's quite clear that what we are doing at the moment isn't working.

I'm not talking about fat shaming - whilst actually that does help me, if I think that people find obesity repulsive, it helps me to avoid that second serving/large bag of crisps etc, and I lost a lot of weight after hearing myself described as "the big girl" - as that's too harsh and not helpful for many. But why take away the consequences of people's actions? Diabetes costs millions a year and a large proportion of that cost could be avoided.

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y 07:22 Rebeccaslicker

I really disagree, Jon. You are advocating not taking the full effect of personal responsibility. It's quite clear that what we are doing at the moment isn't working

See this is how I know when people haven't bothered to RTFT. If they had they'd have known what my first post to the OP was.

GP, who has spent their life committed to the community and really is saying it for the benefit of your own health and with genuine concern, from a medical perspective. Then yes of course you should listen.

Do tell me Rebecca where in that first post of mine I am advocating people don't take personal responsibility for their actions? I'll wait.

I find a bedridden old lafy on oxygen being kicked out of a hospital bed at 9pm at night for an alcoholic woman half her age trying to convince the doctors shes teetotal repulsive. What's your point?

*lady

SW costs less than £5 a week. For many, that's less than they were spending on wine or lattes before they joined. And when you reach target, it's free as long as you stay within a certain range.

It's money well spent imo, if you follow the plan and it works for you.

And before anyone starts I know firsthand how much alcohol addiction affects people. I have had several close members of the family (but you know witnessing certain shit in the armed forces like your mates being blown to smithereens would drive anyone to drink personally) and friends go through alcohol addiction and have since been clean for years.

My point is. Condemn all or condemn none. Condemning one but not the other just makes some posters look very hypocritical.

And when you reach target, it's free as long as you stay within a certain range.

Educating them with healthy eating skills is free forever, you wouldn't have to pay an extra fiver every time you went a couple of pounds over on AF weeks either, I believe the range is 7lb. Theres quite a lot of ladies that can easily put that on on AF weeks with water retention.

Those are the weeks I'd skip

Sorry to hijack the thread, but how do you know if you're "pre-diabetic"?

I eat a lot of sugar (a huge amount, I am rather ashamed) and do worry about my health. However miraculously I am very slim so I don't suppose any doctor has thought about checking it out in me.

iBiscuit.

Saw a group of very overweight people the other day (hospital workers, sadly). Painful to watch one in particular lumbering around under her heavy load, struggling to walk and grunting in pain as she sat down. She looked about 30. And yes, she then started drinking a sugar can...

Why would you want this? Even if you have no one who cares about you, deliberate sabotage of health is beyond entitled.

Drunks are disgusting too.

Given that I've posted since the first page, Jon, maybe YOU should RTT!

I'm waiting to see my GD consultant right now. If someone had made me think harder about responsibility ten years ago, I may well not be here. As it is, so far I've spent about £3k on private appointments and blood tests. If I weren't going private, the NHS would be paying for all that extra treatment.

The issue I have with your posts is that you just seem hung up on blaming the government rather than getting the individual to step up and see what they are costing themselves and everyone else. "Tory cuts Tory cuts Tory cuts" - well, that's a whole separate issue. If you want to start a thread about that, many people will join in I'm sure.

But why on earth does that mean that the cost of treating diabetes shouldn't be relevant? It's still a shitload of money when there isn't that much money to go around, and when there'll be a whole lot less when Brexit really bites.

Oh and I do condemn all. Roundly. I am extremely outspoken about alcoholics and smokers, having had grandparents and an ex who were both.

I was told I was pre-diabetic when I had a blood test about 10 months ago and I already have high blood pressure. It shocked and shamed me into doing something about my weight which has been gradually going up over 20 years, with me convinced I really couldn't change anything and telling myself that it really didn't matter. I'm now 2 1/2 stone lighter, and only a few lbs away from getting my BMI into the overweight category. So, still fat - but much less fat! I also feel a hell of a lot better in all sorts of ways and no red flags from my most recent blood test. The only person who can make you do anything like this is yourself, but I can assure you that - even if you've been resistant to doing so - it is an incredibly good feeling when you do!!