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AIBU that not much is talked about NDE and it's all hush hush but probably many more people believe it than want to admit to?

244 replies

Ruabelieber · 30/11/2017 10:58

Probably for fear of being thought of as nuts!
Got this article via a friend and the more I hear / read the more I believe it..
But if I was to admit this in RL people would think I am bonkers?

www.nationalgeographic.com/magazine/2016/04/dying-near-death-experiences/

OP posts:
AmySueGina · 30/11/2017 15:38

DOES ANYONE WATCH THE OA ON NETFLIX?

Ruabelieber · 30/11/2017 15:40

Bye bye my thread... being high jacked ...time to leave.
It's a first for me. Grin
Tiny is so vested in this and Ceto you are too! I salute your stubbornness...but would love If you put that into something productive!
I might see you on the other side! Wink

OP posts:
tinysparklyshoes · 30/11/2017 15:40

I know, I was agreeing with her.

berliozwooler · 30/11/2017 15:41

www.ed.ac.uk/profile/caroline-watt

tinysparklyshoes · 30/11/2017 15:41

So you're still not admitting or apologising?

Nothing was hijacked, you just didn't get the response you wanted.

Foxysoxy01 · 30/11/2017 15:42

Just the other day I heard that some scientists had worked out that the near death experiences are actually sudden surges of adrenaline that your body releases on the point of death.

Not sure if it's true and cannot for the life of me remember where I heard/saw it so can't link to the research.

I like the idea of an adrenaline surge just before you go though, bit like a last chance massive high Grin that's what I'm hoping for anyway.

Iwanttobe8stoneagain · 30/11/2017 15:42

Bloody hell I hope there is no afterlife esp for some of you - imagine dealing with such anger that has appeared on this thread for eternity!

ConfusedLivingDoll · 30/11/2017 15:44

Parapsychology is the name of the "debunking" psychology discipline studied at university units such as the Koestler unit. Whether you like the name or or not. It is used by other types of people with other agendas, as well, but that's just how it is.

FucksakeCuntingFuckingTwats · 30/11/2017 15:45

Ruab chances are your nuns seen your nephew in that jumper many times before.

To the poster who asked about her dad and the ambulance. Chances are he was drifting in and out of consciousness and then started to dream that. You know like when you are just starting to fall asleep and you start dreaming but aren't entirely asleep and then you fall in your dream and do a jerk and are wide awake again. His brain was likely doing the same.

FucksakeCuntingFuckingTwats · 30/11/2017 15:46

*mum not nuns

tinysparklyshoes · 30/11/2017 15:47

Bloody hell I hope there is no afterlife esp for some of you - imagine dealing with such anger that has appeared on this thread for eternity!

Anger? Where?
Isn't claiming you can tell anger from words on a screen a bit like claiming you are psychic?

Ceto · 30/11/2017 15:48

Tiny is so vested in this and Ceto you are too! I salute your stubbornness...but would love If you put that into something productive!

I'm "vested" (whatever that means)? Because I responded to four posts? What about all the people who've posted many times more, and over a long stretch of time - you included, OP?

And could you explain precisely what is productive about your posts on this thread?

tinysparklyshoes · 30/11/2017 15:50

I'm not vested, I'm just bored and have nothing better to do.

ConfusedLivingDoll · 30/11/2017 15:53

Caroline Watt was my professor. She's excellent and very down to earth.

Highlight775 · 30/11/2017 15:53

Confused

They don't specialise in debunking. They treat 'psi' as a legitimate science. If you don't believe me, look at their website.

You say 'departments like them', but they are the only one in the whole UK.

For a reason.

WizardOfToss · 30/11/2017 15:54

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ConfusedLivingDoll · 30/11/2017 15:58

They do legitimate research. Nothing woo about it. Confused It ends up looking a lot like debunking (which is why I used the polarised example word), as there's so far no proof of any of the phenomena being "woo", but it's not what they specifically set to do, of course. Psi is the name of the research subject. ESP, etc. Again. It's a name? Gosh. Someone needs to specialise in this kind of research, so they do. You'd rather there was no research on it?

Highlight775 · 30/11/2017 16:18

Confused

There is no need to specialise in these kind of things. Any experiences that fall into the category of NDE or ESP are already investigated under a branch of science called 'medicine'.

grannytomine · 30/11/2017 16:21

I haven't had a NDE but I did have a woo experience and I don't know what it was. So I had a long difficult labour, things started going wrong and midwife called for assistance and doctor was in the room for about 10 seconds and they ran me through to theatre. DH just left standing there. I had a GA as there wasn't time for a spinal. Well I woke up and baby was fine and all was well and then I became aware of a white figure to my right just behind my shoulder, if I turned to look the figure moved back. For some reason I felt it was my late father. I was awake and aware enough to decide not to mention it to anyone in case they decided I was psychotic and took the baby away.

Through the night and all next day he stood next to me but all was well and then suddenly the baby started to choke. I called the midwife and she pressed a button for a doctor they then left in a hurry with baby. She had inhaled stuff and it suddenly affected her breathing, she had to have treatment to clear it all out. She was returned to me about 30 to 40 minutes later and she was fine. I suddenly realised that the figure had gone. So the way it seemed to me was when baby was distressed my father came and he stayed when everything seemed OK and after the episode when everything was OK he left.

Is that what happened? I don't know and I don't know why I was so sure it was my dad. I do know I was off any drugs and wasn't short of oxygen and my heart was normal and I do know the timings.

I don't know what to make of it so I don't suppose anyone else will either.

tinysparklyshoes · 30/11/2017 16:24

Sounds like a problem with your eyes, to be honest. Possibly raised blood pressure
There are lots of possible explanations, all of them scientific, none of them woo.

grannytomine · 30/11/2017 16:28

No my blood pressure was fine, I have a tendency to low blood pressure but all my obs were fine and they were doing regular obs for the first few hours after the section. I need reading glasses now but my eyesight was fine back then.

ConfusedLivingDoll · 30/11/2017 16:29

There absolutely is a need to specialise, as the discipline spans many things from e.g. cold reading, "poltergeists" to past-life hypnosis. One of my professors was an ex magician/illusionist as well as a psychologist, so absolutely best placed to study these phenomena. Not everything "Psi" falls under the umbrella of medicine or medical knowledge.

Mummyoflittledragon · 30/11/2017 16:36

Bitoutofpractice
I’m not saying my experience was woo at all. It was my mind. A powerful tool, that tricked me into not being able to see for a short period of time because i couldn’t cope with what I was seeing. I was comparing it to the way that when someone dies temporarily or even permanently the mind undoubtedly does some unimaginable things. And things, which we cannot imagine.

tinysparklyshoes · 30/11/2017 16:37

I need reading glasses now but my eyesight was fine back then

In a long difficult labour you could easily have had a problem with a blood vessel in your eye that no-one could tell, and could easily have produced a sort of a shadow or visual disturbance.
I'm only guessing, obviously I don't know, but I do know there is an explanation and it isn't that the ghost of your relative stood there for hours and only you could see them!

Runningoutofusernames · 30/11/2017 16:38

I died once -well, no heartbeat, brief enough to be brought back again - and nothing cool happened at all. Or really nothing happened at all, it felt a little disappointing. Was on the sceptical side before, but even more now.

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