AIBU that not much is talked about NDE and it's all hush hush but probably many more people believe it than want to admit to?

[Ruabelieber]

Probably for fear of being thought of as nuts!
Got this article via a friend and the more I hear / read the more I believe it..
But if I was to admit this in RL people would think I am bonkers?

www.nationalgeographic.com/magazine/2016/04/dying-near-death-experiences/

I'm a fucking riot.

Tiny
You sound like you are bored and need validation.

Hugs to you ... seems like you need them.

Now you can peace ✌️ off

Slightly different, I didn't believe in life after death in any form, until DF passed away. Couple of things happened, but the most extraordinary was about 2 hours after he had passed away. I was leaving the hospital to drive home and this HUGE feeling of love filled my heart. It was immense, I had just lost my dad and yet I had this feeling of incredible warmth flow through me.

I know others who have had this, including DH when his DM died. But he still thinks life after death is bollocks so goes to show we all put our own spin on what happens

I have also technically 'died' - nothing, not a sausage.
I have regularly experienced a kind of weird sensation of light and sound just as I am going under a GA, it's the presumably a brief stage on the way to losing consciousness. The brain is a very complex organ and the effects it cna have are often very strange.
The first time I had a visual migraine I felt as if I was tripping - it was so weird and alien. But it had a physical explanation, and next time I had one I knew what was happening so I was much less freaked out.

I prefer scientific explanations for phenomena rather than woo. I don't believe in life after death (in fact I find the idea of eternal life quite horrific) but on the other hand if people find it comforting to think there is something magical or spiritual going on and it makes them feel more secure, that's fine, it's harmless, whatever floats your boat.

Validation? I'm not the one claiming people thought Columbus was going to fall off the edge of the earth!

Pet, just graciously admit when you're very wrong. Life will be easier for you.

It's probably part of the grieving process for some people, Handmaid. I'm glad that it brought you some brief comfort.

Ruabelieber

You're using the word 'reality' in the wrong sense. Your mother experienced something that has convinced her there is life after death. People with knowledge of the subject then told her that her experience was common and caused by a hallucination. That's not her 'reality' it's actually the exact opposite of the definition of reality, which is "the state of things as they actually exist" (my bold)

I'm sure it's nice for her to think that it was true, but doesn't make it any more 'real'.

I'm a fucking riot.

This thread be really fucking funny

It was real to her brain and to her.

And that’s fair enough. Many episodes in our minds can seem real - anything from a realistic dream that has us questioning reality when we wake up, to a severe psychological episode where we ‘hear voices’ or similar. Our brains are like amazing computers, they store infinite amount of information, can pull these ‘files’ from nowhere, and sometimes wires get crossed and information gets jumbled. Our minds are extremely complicated things, mixed in with the ability to ‘invent’ thoughts, it’s no wonder that humanity ends up confusing reality with the individual stories they make up in their heads. The human mind is fallible and untrustworthy - that is why we have to have solid facts before we can start decreeing beliefs as real. An individual’s experience doesn’t count.

I've also had auditroy hallucinations (usually just before I wake up in the mornings or just before I'm falling asleep at night) they feel so real they are almost froghtening as the voice I hear can be aggressive or threatening. But I know they are hallucinations and connected again with my brain being in a semi conscious state.

I actually think science is far more extraordinary and fascinating than any kind of woo theory. I don;t understand why people want to find mystical explanations for things which are explainable by science. It's a bit retrograde when we have brains developed enough to understand things properly. Like I said - each to their own, but I can't personally grasp why anyone would go for a woo explanation rather than a sensible one.

I've had dreams of dying and the afterlife, and had dreams where I appear to be floating above my body and can look down on my "sleeping self" and I have lucid dreams regularly. I don't put it down to anything other than a vivid imagination, but I can understand people having these experiences and in the context where you have almost lost your life or your heart stops for a time it must feel quite metaphysical!

I actually think science is far more extraordinary and fascinating than any kind of woo theory

This exactly! I hate when people call you closed minded because you care about science and not woo! You can't be more open minded than to be a scientist, and it's closed minded to turn to illogical bullhockey when instead you could have the amazing wonders of scientific reality.

I don't understand how people get it so wrong?

People wanting to be right at all cost often 1) suffer frim low self esteem.
2) have a tiny mind.
3) are keyboard warriors spoiling for a fight

So -reply to you

1. will have my compassion
2. will have my understanding
3. don't have the time for that

Moving on..
KurriKurri

I saw a thread in AIBU a few weeks ago about believing in afterlife and many people had experienced some sort of signs.
We can choose to believe them or not and maybe believing it's just a way to make the thought of our death and our nearest deaths more acceptable.
My mum is quite debut since her experience is so much happier and says she is really looking forward to the moment she will go. but that makes me sad..

Well, tiny sums it up for me.

Sweetheart, I think you are confused. I was right and you were wrong. We don't need any further reasoning, it was easily demonstrated by facts. Just say my bad, got that wrong, sorry for my rudeness. Go on, you can do it!

Meant:

My mum is quite relieved since her experience and she is so much happier she will see all her dearest and says she is really looking forward to the moment she will go.

Ruabelieber

People take illegal drugs to make themselves happy. If your test of if something is good or not is if it makes people happy, then I'd suggest you need to reevaluate.

I'd rather know the truth than believe something just because it 'makes me happy'. Anything for else is just wishful thinking.

I'm a scientist. Tiny I want to be your friend.

People wanting to be right at all cost often 1) suffer frim low self esteem.
2) have a tiny mind.
3) are keyboard warriors spoiling for a fight

You know, saying things like this in response to posters that disagree with you in a factual way doesn’t make you read well. You have come out with some very untrue statements on here, and instead of accepting you’re wrong you jump down a single posters throat. It has read more like you are the one ‘spoiling for a fight’ than Tiny, who’s only explained matters from a logical point of view. AIBU isn’t the place if you just wanted posters to agree with your unproven theories.

Thanks Amy and Edmund! Have a with me

Tiny sorry you don't come across as open minded at all. I know scientists who are so it probably doesn't have to do with that.

Anyway, the original question on this thread was if it's unreasonable to think that people don't talk much about what they believe in if it's about NDE because they worry about being judged. It doesn't seem that it was unreasonable at all.

In what way, exactly, is my mind not open? It's an easy thing to accuse someone of but what does it actually mean? That your beliefs mean nothing to me when they are illogical and contradicted by scientfic evidence?

Tiny, I'm not disagreeing with the thrust of your argument. What I am taking issue with is your dogmatic, patronising, tiresome, unhelpful and frankly rude posting style on every thread today, where you take a deliberately antagonistic viewpoint, quite often to people who are on the same side as you. I don't know if this is for your own amusement, or whether your piles are playing up, or whether those tiny shoes really are too tiny and painful, or whether you have a desperate need to prove right every last person whom you see as being Wrong On the Internet. It's really rather tiresome when some people are having a discussion, rational, reasonable or otherwise to come in and stamp your little feet and try and make posters apologise to you or admit they were wrong, or act as thread policeman. I suggest you go and have a lie down.

I am always shocked on why people who don' t have an interest in paranormal or afterlife are so invested in proving the contrary.
Tiny and friends - probably you are on the wrong thread?
You are spoiling for a fight because you don't believe in this. You said what you thought. Nothing I have heard before hence the title of my thread.

You are proving a point as you sound intimidating and will shoot down whoever has a different opinion than yours.

So my title of thread was fair or a self fulfilling prophecy?

Now - what are you still doing on the thread?

I think that is a rude and unneccessary personal attack but if you feel the need to say such things you go right ahead.