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To think gender alters the perception of what is said on MN?

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1DAD2KIDS · 26/11/2017 11:00

I use a username that clearly identifies my gender (and is also my biological sex). Often I feel that if people assumed I was a woman their response would be different. Or if you swapped the genders around some people's responses would be completely different?

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LassWiTheDelicateAir · 30/11/2017 19:55

Lass who is saying women never do that? It’s common enough for men to do it to women that someone invented a pithy phrase for it - and it caught on because it happens regularly enough to strike a chord

My objection to the term is it is overused, and thrown out as a trump card as a means of shutting someone up.

The best example of "mansplaining" on here was , as far as I'm concerned, your inaccurate lecture on what "chartered means". (which was quite funny given the running joke in The Archers threads about what D3 does in real life)

Yes I appreciate you apologised but it is not D3 I see "mansplaining" on here.

AssassinatedBeauty · 30/11/2017 19:56

Right... so mansplaining only happens if a man explicitly states that he's patronising you specifically and only because you're female?? Do you really think that people can't tell when a man is doing this because he is sexist?

The reason why the term has become popular and used is because women have noticed that very often men do this to women but not in the same way to men. Or are you going to insist that women are wrong and they are all misinterpreting what is happening?

Pumperthepumper · 30/11/2017 20:09

I haven’t seen the Archers threads.

I’ve already apologised for the charter ship thing, I was wrong. I apologise again.

LassWiTheDelicateAir · 30/11/2017 20:12

Or are you going to insist that women are wrong and they are all misinterpreting what is happening?

You have already had women disagreeing on here that D3 was mansplaining. Are you saying their interpretation is wrong and you are right?

AssassinatedBeauty · 30/11/2017 20:25

I was meaning generally rather than just about this specific thread.

LassWiTheDelicateAir · 30/11/2017 20:37

Or are you going to insist that women are wrong and they are all misinterpreting what is happening?

How did you spin that out of what I actually said?. I said it was an overused expression. I think it is being used inappropriately on this thread.

Men behave in this way to women and other men. Women do too - to men and other women.

AssassinatedBeauty · 30/11/2017 20:40

I wasn't responding to your post. I was responding to the OPs last post.

AssassinatedBeauty · 30/11/2017 20:40

And referring to my opinion as "spin" again...

1DAD2KIDS · 30/11/2017 21:11

LassWiTheDelicateAir I agree mansplaining is a thing. I think sometimes you people throw it out there just for a cheap point score in conversations.

AssassinatedBeauty no mansplaining can be mansplaining with say 'hey I'm mansplaining'. But it's very hard to tell on here the intent base on written text. It's very hard to tell with written text a lone devoid of tone, body language, facial expression. Just because you may feel it's mansplaining to you dosent make it so. So it's a bit poor to go wildly throwing it out there on a weak assumption

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1DAD2KIDS · 30/11/2017 21:12

Without sating*

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1DAD2KIDS · 30/11/2017 21:12

Saying*

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1DAD2KIDS · 30/11/2017 21:13

Should stop rushing in tea break

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AssassinatedBeauty · 30/11/2017 21:14

By "you people" do you mean women?

Pumperthepumper · 30/11/2017 21:18

I am another who would love to know who you meant by ‘you people’.

madwoman1ntheatt1c · 30/11/2017 21:30

'The term manplaining is sexist when simply used when a male is being patronising to a female (regardless of intent). It is a kin to the way the Daily Mail will make clear a criminal is Muslim even though is crime may have nothing to with criminals religion.'

or - because the undeniable intent of the Fail (however much it is subconscious, or they deny it) is to link criminality to Islam, the undeniable intent of a man patronizing a woman is to link the female inferiority to the man's (feeling of) superiority? You say potato...

EvilDoctorBallerinaRoastDuck · 30/11/2017 21:46

DF does this to everyone regardless of sex. He's the world authority on everything, and no one else knows anything about anything. Even when he's talking complete and utter bullshit. It's not mansplaining, because he patronises everyone equally.

LineysRunner · 30/11/2017 21:49

you people

Wow

SlowlyShrinking · 30/11/2017 22:24

You people? Come on, ONEDAD. You’re almost becoming a parody now...

1DAD2KIDS · 30/11/2017 22:28

Seen, bit of phone gaff should read some people. Sorry.

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UsedtobeFeckless · 30/11/2017 23:09

You people? Seriously? Hmm
When l opened this thread l was going to agree with the OP - a poster's sex does affect the responses they get in some cases - but after wading through all the posts l reckon it's his attitude rather than his sex that's his main problem.

Whoyagonna · 30/11/2017 23:17

You people have more patience than I have to still be engaging in this non-issue with this man who has an issue.

StatelessPrincess · 30/11/2017 23:19

So in your opinion OP, I shouldn't say my BIL was mansplaining because he didn't explicitly say he knows better than me because he's a man? Don't you think that as he's never given birth, never witnessed one and has no medical knowledge that my assumption that he's a sexist prick is a fair one considering I have never witnessed him speak to a man like that? If he was just a generally really patronising person to everyone then I would just say that, I wouldn't say he mansplained.
Why do you think this term has become widely used, do you think that maybe it has something to do with women hearing it and recognising it as something that a lot of men do? I personally don't think a lot of men realise that they're doing it, it's ingrained.

StatelessPrincess · 30/11/2017 23:21

Also are you saying that by using this term, to call out sexism, women are being sexist themselves?

ReggaetonLente · 30/11/2017 23:28

Don't know. I always think that it's easier to associate with the viewpoint with which you are presented. On here, it's often the female one - whether we consciously acknowledge that or not.

And also, I can't speak for everyone here (AIBU) but it seems my natural instinct to empathise with those in pain. I've been on threads where a woman has cheated and has been in great turmoil - I'll always be kind to someone who's upset. I'll also sympathise, on the same day, with a woman who's been cheated on, in the same position but on the other side of the fence. It's moral relativism, yes, but I'll always empathise with someone who has asked for help.

1DAD2KIDS · 30/11/2017 23:42

It was a phone error. A mixture of rushing my typing, my thinkers being to big for the buttons, tieredness, auto text and my dyslexia. Anyone who has read my posts (especially the long ones) knows my messages are full of spelling mistakes, grammar errors, wrong words, words in the wrong places. Even when I proof read things I miss the mistakes because my brain reads what I have said in my head not what I have actually written. It took me three reads of that post to find out what people were going on about. It should have read 'some people'. I would have to be mental to rite 'you people' I have by accident handed the people that dislike big shinney gift on a huge gold plate. No doubt theyll kick the arse out of it for every bit its worth. But it is a genuin mistake and dosent chance the point.

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