In not wanting to be a feminist

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I know I’m not alone as have had this conversation with friends but does anyone else feel PC stuff is just going too far now. The gender stuff is confusing me - I’m female always have been always will be and perfectly happy that way I don’t want to identify whatever that means with anything else and change my mind or whatever the gender fluid thing is ( that really confuses me) I’m mum to a daughter - who when younger was a pink, princess, Barbie loving frilly dress wearing child. I loved her wearing pretty dresses and wanting pretty hair. I’ve always worked in female dominated jobs - through choice no one forced me from being little I wanted to be cabin crew, my parents would have preferred me to be a solicitor, accountant or doctor like my siblings but supported my decision to go into the beauty industry because that’s what I was happy doing.
When I was younger I was whistled at in the street, had my bum pinched in nightclubs etc I wasn’t offended or outraged.

I don’t want to live in a genderless world, I don’t want my teenage daughter being in gender neutral changing rooms, I don’t even like being referred to as someone’s partner I’m quite happy being called his girlfriend.

I don’t want to offend anyone with my probably old fashioned views - I’m not even old! But I’m getting fed up of constantly hearing and reading about what I should think and believe, i mean the latest fuss about Sleeping beauty ..... what will pc brigade want to ban next?

I don’t think you understand what feminism is. Educate yourself and then see if you come to the same conclusion.

What I love about the fuckwits who cite 'brainwashing" is that they don't bother to find out what it actually entails, as opposed to their woolly-minded lazy-arsed thinking, oooh let's put THIS label on it.

I think the strong reactions from so many of us is because OP has just labelled something very negatively, without actually looking at the facts.

It's bit like saying to a talented artist, "yeah, but it's only silly drawings you do isn't it", forgetting the fact that they are actually a world-class, sculptor, say.

Surely the onus is on the nay-sayer to state the facts they believe are wrong ("just silly drawings"), rather than claiming they are right and all the sculptors are in fact wrong about what they do.

That's quite an analogy.

The OP is not a talented artist. Or even close.

To say, as I assume you mean, feminists are "nay-sayers" is in itself a belittling description. It implies nit-picking, an habitual negative reaction. The OP has had many reasoned responses.

I think I have reached terminal despair.

echt

'That's quite an analogy.
The OP is not a talented artist. Or even close.'

I think the feminists are the artists in that analogy, echt

This kind of thing always calls to mind two quotations:

"That's like someone being like, 'I don't really believe in cars, but I drive one every day and I love that it gets me to places and makes life so much easier and faster and I don't know what I would do with out it.' "
Amy Poehler

and particularly this quotation from Maya Angelou:
"I am a feminist. I've been female for a long time now. I'd be stupid not to be on my own side."

I just can't see it any way other than the above. I'm a feminist because women fought for me to have a better life and I want to do the same for other women.

I have never associated being a feminist with being a man-hater.

To me, it’s about equality, rights and choices.
I don’t think I know any women who aren’t feminists, even if we’ve never discussed it specifically.
All the women I know expect women to be fairly treated, to be counted, to have choices available to them in terms of education, career and health and not be abused or exploited.
That is the core of feminism, surely?

@BeyondAssignation I think the feminists are the artists in that analogy, echt grin

You are correct.

YABU and ignorant. Are you happy for your dd to be sexually harassed, assaulted or raped? Or barred from certain professions, or her contribution to them overlooked, or for het to be paid less than her male colleagues? Because that's what feminism is challenging.

Oh, just a bit of bum pinching for her DD, she'll look benevolently on that. A bit of fun for the boys.

Wolf whistles and pinching bums!! Does all this still go on, I thought this had all ended? (I don't get out much) I don't even like dh pinching my bum (unless i'm in the mood ) OP, you really won't mind if random strangers pinch dd's bum when she's grown? How f...ing depressing, I could actually cry!

"olf whistles and pinching bums!! Does all this still go on, I thought this had all ended?"
Having a young adult daughter is eye opening and depressing in equal measure.

I just can't get worked up about some of the issues that women on here froth at the mouth about...

Agree with this,

Are you sure women really are getting worked up and frothing at the mouth? Because quite often that's how people describe raising a concern, however mildly.

Really shocking attitude to have. How you got to be a teacher, if that's what you are, without basic knowledge or any curiosity to expand your knowledge, I don't know. You have no grasp on the concepts. If you don't want to be a feminist then you don't support your DD or any other girl or woman having equal opportunities.

Sadly extremely common in teaching now. You don’t even have to be able to spell, let alone grasp the basics of feminism and women’s history.

Are you sure women really are getting worked up and frothing at the mouth?

The amount of effing and blinding and calling each other idiots I've seen on here, yes that's how I would describe it.

Yeah, well, people do get cross sometimes. That's life. But it does seem to be the non/anti feminists who get the crossest!

So one womans opinion on sleeping beauty is the 'pc brigade' and you are not a feminist as you think feminism is about eradicating the world of the colour pink, barbies and random men pinching bottoms? OK then.

"So one womans opinion on sleeping beauty is the 'pc brigade' and you are not a feminist as you think feminism is about eradicating the world of the colour pink, barbies and random men pinching bottoms? OK then."

Eh?

It is the assumption that OP is not a feminist from what has been written in her post that confuses me.

I think she can't bear the PC stuff (lots can't) but that does not equate to not agreeing in equality of sexes and not wanting to promote women's rights.

Her choice of thread title has led to a backlash which I don't think the content of the post deserves.

Eh?

The OP clearly does not understand what feminism is, thinks feminism is all about eradicating girly things, and also seems to think one persons opinion on Sleeping beauty is something about 'pc brigade'.

I wonder if she was a little drunk when posting this thread. As it makes no sense really.

ok goalls but assuming you are right and she doesn't understand feminism do you think she has deserved the nasty comments she's received on here?

Do you think that will encourage her to understand feminism? I don't ! I don't get this bashing/belittling of other women from some feminists. It doesn't do anything to help the cause.

Sorry, Thegoal- I completely misread!