In not wanting to be a feminist

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I know I’m not alone as have had this conversation with friends but does anyone else feel PC stuff is just going too far now. The gender stuff is confusing me - I’m female always have been always will be and perfectly happy that way I don’t want to identify whatever that means with anything else and change my mind or whatever the gender fluid thing is ( that really confuses me) I’m mum to a daughter - who when younger was a pink, princess, Barbie loving frilly dress wearing child. I loved her wearing pretty dresses and wanting pretty hair. I’ve always worked in female dominated jobs - through choice no one forced me from being little I wanted to be cabin crew, my parents would have preferred me to be a solicitor, accountant or doctor like my siblings but supported my decision to go into the beauty industry because that’s what I was happy doing.
When I was younger I was whistled at in the street, had my bum pinched in nightclubs etc I wasn’t offended or outraged.

I don’t want to live in a genderless world, I don’t want my teenage daughter being in gender neutral changing rooms, I don’t even like being referred to as someone’s partner I’m quite happy being called his girlfriend.

I don’t want to offend anyone with my probably old fashioned views - I’m not even old! But I’m getting fed up of constantly hearing and reading about what I should think and believe, i mean the latest fuss about Sleeping beauty ..... what will pc brigade want to ban next?

I think I may be one of your friends OP

YABU...because as others have said, you don't understand feminism at all.

It has nothing to do with being gender fluid. It also has nothing to do with rejecting 'girly' things.

I'm a feminist and in to watching YT make up tutorials and I wear dresses every day.

I guess though, as you're not a feminist you're totally fine with the fact that your daughter has a 1 in 5 chance of experiencing some form of sexual violence by the time she's 16. That's good with you?

If she's one of the roughly 11 women raped in the U.K. every single hour that's fine? I mean we don't want to talk about it too much in case it puts someone off pinching your bum right?

Oh, and a 1 in 4 chance of being the victim of domestic violence. That's presumably totally fine?

If your daughter is one of the 11 women raped every hour in this country, how will you feel knowing that you chose to argue against feminism because you're worried men won't feel they can give you a compliment anymore?

getmeoutofhere I cant believe be punched you in the face, that’s bloody awful!
How did he think you would react to an ass grope? You’d fall into his arms and shag him?

So lola even if you don’t think she’s interested you think it’s better to shame her with your eye rolls than explain your differing view?

Original, I believe the term they use is humanism

Ooh, is it? I’ve heard of it but never really looked in to it. Is it possible to be an -ist but have no idea 🤔😄

So does everyone of the posters agreeing with the Op are absolutely happy with the world as it is for women now? I.e. They feel that's it, we are done???

@PumpkinSquash

Why do you think feminism is about referring to women as being 'cis'?

It definitely isn't.

I'm a feminist and completely reject being called a 'cis' woman so I'm not sure where you get that from? Most feminists on here wouldn't use the term 'cis' (it's usually a term used by trans people to describe women).

notontgestairs have you read the thread? I agree with OP and am a feminist and am not happy with the world for women as it is now! I get what op is saying entirely and am a feminist!

Are you really an MRA? God I really hope so because if not this is fucking depressing.

Fuck the fuck OFF with " are you an MRA" to the OP. Women ARE allowed to think outside of the "right on" box" without being accused of being a man or an internalised female one who sympathises extremely with men regardless of the topic!
I''m rarely wound up, but this subject really pisses me off as you don't get to tell me as a woman how I should be thinking!
Isn't that a bit hypocritical to what you want, females to have their own minds etc?

Speechless
Do you even understand how come you have the right to vote?

So @PumpkinSquash are you also fine with the statistics in my post?

You think that's okay? That we don't have anything to complain about as women?

You don't know what a feminist is. Until you do, saying you don't want to be one is like saying you don't want to be grumkpin or a snark: you don't know what they are, so you can't make an informed decision on the issue

So lola even if you don’t think she’s interested you think it’s better to shame her with your eye rolls than explain your differing view?

a) show me the post where I rolled my eyes, would you?
b) I have done exactly that, in pointing out that equal pay, the right to own property, the right to vote and the right not to be raped by your husband are just a few of the benefits that have accrued to women in current society as a direct result of feminism.

Oddly enough, not one of the posters who is proud to denounce feminism has commented on whether they would be happy for themselves or their daughters to lose any one of those 'privileges'. I wonder why?

Ffs there is not only one brand of feminism! The op is largely talking about political correctness but has been vilified by the sisterhood! I’m not comfortable with that !

Wow that OP is fucking depressing. Can’t even bring myself to read the thread.

OP. You keep saying this word (Feminist) but I do not think it means what you think it means.

Lola read my posts , I have addressed it!

Why do you think feminism is about referring to women as being 'cis'?

I don't.
The cis bit was referring to a thread earlier where it made me sit up and think "hang on a minute." Never really took much notice to all the terms being thrown about before as it didn't really concern me. It does though if people start saying cis woman. No, that'd be woman. I'm a woman. Fully agreed feminists are on board and don't want their rights or status eroded, but also completely understand how utterly confusing it all is so don't blame the OP!

YANBU

Oh dear. YABVU.

In summary then, you don't like political correctness which is not the same thing as feminism.

Hence why some of those of us who are feminists have been defensive. 'Political correctness' and feminism aren't the same thing.

There are some overlaps (like I have no issue with dolls but I don't love Barbies because I think it promotes a weird idea of body image) but not every feminist will think the same thing anyway.

The op is largely talking about political correctness but has been vilified by the sisterhood! I’m not comfortable with that!

Me either. PC, or feminism - both separate things, but both need addressing in this context. Both important.

My local swimming baths has only recently introduced unisex changing rooms and got rid of the standard boy/girl rooms. My six year old daughter was horrified to learn of this and kept asking me to explain why boys and girls had to get changed together. The world has gone crazy and I'm another one that cannot understand all this hocus pocus regarding gender fluidness. Girls are girls and boys are boys end of story. My daughter has since spoken to various members of staff in school to make sure that they don't change the girl/boy setup of toilets/changing rooms to unisex ones. She is that frightened that this will become a reality.
Where does this shit come from? Who decides what we can and can't label. Every other day I'm seeing this crap plastered all over the news. You can't call a boy a boy for fear of upsetting him because he might get upset coz he doesn't see himself a boy when he looks at himself in the mirror or mum is furious about people picking on her son coz she sends him to school in dresses and pigtails, lets ban sleeping beauty because it actually is a cartoon version of rape. What the fuck man???????
Next we won't be able to call a lesbian a lesbian for fear of a backlash or years down the line our pets will have to be called animals for fear of labelling them cats/dogs and hurting their tiny feelings. This shit needs to go easy as my kids are just going to grow up confused as hell. Crazy ass world!!!!
100 percent with the OP and two fingers to the rest of ya

Feminism is about choice you can choose to be pretty be girly , marry and be a house wife , or you could have a career , be a tomboy lesbian , never marry or have any children or a mixture . Women used to have a set path Marriage and children with no alternatives we have alternatives now and it's great !

So @PumpkinSquash are you also fine with the statistics in my post?You think that's okay? That we don't have anything to complain about as women?
Haven't seen your statistics, it's a long thread. Will attempt to locate them and report back.