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To think that if I was Serena Williams, I'd be a bit disappointed in my wedding photos?

292 replies

IvankaTrudeau · 21/11/2017 11:57

www.vogue.com/article/serena-williams-wedding-new-orleans?intcid=inline_amp

From the description, it's clear she went all out, which is fair enough when you've earned millions through your own hard work. And it all sounds incredible, but the pictures in Vogue don't really do it justice, in my opinion. I've seen much cheaper weddings look better (just in terms of framing and how you take the shot etc). Unless she kept all the best pictures private? Or she had multiple photographers and this is just one view?

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FlowerPot1234 · 22/11/2017 09:23

Lanaa

I agree with @VladmirsPoutine.

As you agree with VladmirsPoutine, perhaps you could cite all the racist posts on here which VladmirsPoutine claims are here. It's just we've asked them, but they don't seem able to. Perhaps you could do a better job and point us to them?

I’m just waiting for someone to call her or her wedding ghetto or express surprise that a rich white man married her.

Yes, you really are waiting for that aren't you? Why are you doing that do you think?

surferjet · 22/11/2017 09:27

Are people on MN only allowed to critique the wedding photos of white people?

NineFortySixPM · 22/11/2017 09:40

I bloody love Serena, she’s my favourite tennis player ever and I think she has a really strong kind of beauty. Plus her figure is amazing - so strong and athletic yet feminine, I’d say she she’s a phenomenal looking woman.

Did her wedding dress do her justice? Is it what anyone else would have picked? Were her boobs on show? The answer to all those is it doesn’t matter because it’s what she chose and it was her day. I think her pics are lovely and she looks pretty and like a woman in love....but I wish she’d worn something form fitting because I think she’d have knocked it out the park. She clearly wanted classy, demure and elegant though and fair play to her.

TossDaily · 22/11/2017 09:40

This thread reads as if someone found SW's wedding photos on a bus and held them up for ridicule.

In what world would someone's internationally-published wedding photographs not attract comment?

There are going to be differences of opinion about them, and the fact that the couple in question chose to publish them on an international platform does feel like permission to comment.

I doubt that a supremely successful phenomenon such as SW, newly married and with a gorgeous little baby, will crumple under the opinion that her wedding dress bodice was too small for her.

And anyone suggesting that such comments are racially motivated needs to take a good look at themselves. Really.

DownTheChimney · 22/11/2017 09:41

No one would start a thread saying Andy Murray looked crap in his wedding photos.

Tbf, he is so boring, nobody would really care Grin

NerrSnerr · 22/11/2017 09:49

Why critique anyone’s wedding photos? It’s their day so why does it matter if they don’t look how others want them to?

TossDaily · 22/11/2017 09:51

Why indeed? But everybody's not as nice as you, NerrSnerr.

Standingcat · 22/11/2017 10:56

The photo of her walking with her new husband shows so much joy on her face! I hope she has that photo on a wall in one of her homes

derxa · 22/11/2017 11:00

No one would start a thread saying Andy Murray looked crap in his wedding photos
tbf they did have a go at Kim Murray's dress
www.telegraph.co.uk/sport/tennis/andymurray/11532275/Loved-the-bride-and-even-the-groom-but-surely-Kim-Sears-will-regret-her-choice-of-wedding-gown-in-the-years-to-come.html

LuluLozenge · 22/11/2017 11:09

"I think the bride did not look her best and the dress and hair was absolutely awful on her. The catwalk was tacky and self-absorbed in my opinion."

WTF am I reading? This is shameful and depressing to read. Presumably you (and the other people pulling apart this woman's "tacky" wedding and making comments about the way her breasts look in her dress) have children? Are you really teaching them that it's fine to make unkind remarks about someone's appearance and wedding day just because you "have an opinion" and feel entitled to air that, even if that means spreading negativity and reinforcing societal pressure on women to conform to a certain look?

And god forbid anyone be "self absorbed" on their own wedding day!

surferjet · 22/11/2017 11:10

NerrSnerr
She’s world famous & her wedding photos are all over the media. People are going to comment. Personally, I think most of the photos are lovely, but she is too big for the dress she chose & would have looked a lot better in something else.
My point was, some people are screaming ‘racist’ just because the woman we’re discussing happens to be black. I’d be saying she was too big for that dress if she was white!

trixymalixy · 22/11/2017 11:23

I think she looks lovely because she's glowingly happy. I'm a big Serena fan.

I think part of the problem with the photos is the venue. The warehouse background is a bit harsh and blank. If they'd got married in a beautiful venue giving a beautiful backdrop to the photos i think that would have made a difference.

TheDobbyClub · 22/11/2017 11:54

In fairness the thread wasn't started to talk about Serena looked, it was about the quality of the photography. And I still think it's a fair point because some of the photos seem shoddy in terms of photography like a backdrop that doesn't extend to the sides of the shot, showing scaffolding behind, unflattering angles in posed shots etc. It does seem surprising to me given how much was presumably spent on a photographer. Unless they got a friend or non-pro or someone to do it.

I think the candid shots are much nicer than the posed shots.

FlowerPot1234 · 22/11/2017 12:09

NerrSnerr

Why critique anyone’s wedding photos?
Why not? That's what this thread is about. The photos were published with the consent of SW and her husband in a magazine and online for millions of people to look at. They hope we look at them. We are looking at them. As human beings, looking at things tends to result in opinions being formed of what we can see.

It’s their day so why does it matter if they don’t look how others want them to?
What do you mean about it mattering? Who said it matters? What's that got to do with this thread? Confused

ShirleyPhallus · 22/11/2017 12:16

I’d still love to know what is racist about any of these posts

Biggest criticisms are that the light is too stark in the photography, and that SW’s top doesn’t support her breasts. Could anyone please explain what is racist about either of these? Or is it just throwing the race word around because we are talking about a black woman?

FlowerPot1234 · 22/11/2017 12:22

ShirleyPhallus
I’d still love to know what is racist about any of these posts

So would I! But not one - not one - poster shouting there is racism here can provide a single example, point to a single post, quote a single phrase of it.

They are asked again and again, and just can't. They so want it to be true so they can be outraged. It's actually quite funny, it must be so very frustrating for them to not see a drop of racism here. They must have steam coming out of their head when they read that we think SW is a brilliant sportswoman, that she has wonderful athleticism, that we think she has looked fantastic in other dresses, but we don't think this particular dress fitted her very well. Can you imagine how difficult that is for those hoping to find racism here! Grin

MetalMidget · 22/11/2017 12:25

If I was Serena Williams, I'd be fucking delighted, because I was marrying a hot guy, surrounded by friends and family, with a beautiful baby, and also because I'd be Serena Fucking Williams!

CinderellaRockefeller · 22/11/2017 12:25

It is desperately ironic all the fuss posters are making about how these are REAL people in REAL life and this is a PUBLIC forum and they might see it and have their feelings hurt by people being mean on the internet.

Are you aware Serena is marrying the co-founder and exec-chairman of Reddit? I may be going out on a limb here, but I don’t think he has a particular moral problem with people being bitchy and talking badly about other people on the internet. Because that is pretty much the raison d’etre OF Reddit. It’s made him a lot of money.

In fact, you could probably say that people being bitchy on the internet funded half the wedding in a roundabout way.

caperberries · 22/11/2017 12:45

cinderella take a bow! You've nailed it

BalloonSlayer · 22/11/2017 12:54

Haven't read the entire thread - and didn't get through all the photos either. Not gonna stop me commenting though . . . Grin

  • didn't like first dress. Second was amazing though and made her look about three stone lighter than the first one. I think that as Serena spends all her working life wearing white with her legs on display and her splendid boobs hidden, it's fairly obvious she'd want to swap it around on a day like this.
  • not photoshopped? You sure? How come the groom (forgot his name) is wearing a frilly shirt to walk down the aisle but isn't wearing it in the "getting ready" pictures or in the actual group photos. You sure someone didn't add a few frills for him? Or did he keep changing his shirt thoughout the day?
RoseWhiteTips · 22/11/2017 13:24

DownTheChimney

No one would start a thread saying Andy Murray looked crap in his wedding photos.

Tbf, he is so boring, nobody would really care grin

Oh sooooooo funny.

NotACleverName · 22/11/2017 13:28

You can continue to critique/discuss the photos as much as you like, Serena's never going to see this and, if she did, I doubt she'd be at all bothered by the opinions of faceless posters on an internet message board.

ILikeyourHairyHands · 22/11/2017 13:34

Money doesn't buy class = I am very jealous I haven't got millions to spunk on a wedding.

DeloresVanTropp · 22/11/2017 13:34

I love Serena Williams, however I also agree that the dress didn't do her any justice at all. And with all that money, I'd have had chosen a better venue that what they chose.
Preston Bailey failed on this one- ( I have been on one of his workshops, by the way) - just saying....
Just wonder where her dad was?!

runwalkrun · 22/11/2017 16:23

Are people on MN only allowed to critique the wedding photos of white people?

It seems that way.
I'm convinced there are some sad souls who spend their time trawling MN, purposefully looking for threads that they can dissect and take offense at things that haven't even been said.