To hate the now common usage of "santa"

[Creambun2]

Just this really. Santa is a vulgar Americanism.

What was wrong with father Christmas ffs.

Hate “Santa”. “San’a!!” in annoying American accent.

Do you find all American accents annoying or just some? I think mine is quite charming actually.

The only American accents I find annoying are the fake ones much beloved of regional commercial radio DJs and teenage YouTubers. Anyone who had an actual real life American accent sounds quite lovely to me. Although some regions are more lovely than others.

There's absolutely nothing wrong with English people calling the bearded present-deliverer "Father Christmas", if that's the term they grew up using. It doesn't make them snobs, or middle-class, just people who use a particular dialect phrase.

What does make them sound a bit ridiculous and Hyacinth Bucket-like is insisting that their particular (minority) dialect term is the only correct one, that others are vulgar, that their version is more widespread than is in fact the case and that it signifies education/social class/good taste.

*Do you find all American accents annoying or just some? I think mine is quite charming actually. 

Not all - just the nasal, bratty American kids ones in straight to TV Christmas films

Although some regions are more lovely than others.

Being a Southerner, I tend to agree with this.

Hate “Santa”. “San’a!!” in annoying American accent

What about Irish, Scottish, Australian, Canadian or the other accents?

The NAtional Trust issued a memo this week that they were forbidding the use of Santa and it must be Father Christmas. Which I think says a lot.

The NAtional Trust issued a memo this week that they were forbidding the use of Santa and it must be Father Christmas.

Only in England though presumably? I posted a link upthread where their own website refers to a visit to Santa at one of their properties in N Ireland.

It was always Santa when I grew up in Ireland, the odd time "Daidí na Nollaig" at school in their failed attempts to foster a love of the Irish language with us. Never Father Christmas, that was an English thing and would have earned you a few funny looks.

Methinks the National Trust needs to be re-educated as to the definition of "British"

www.standard.co.uk/news/uk/national-trust-bans-the-phrase-santa-claus-in-favour-of-father-christmas-a3695371.html

hasn't it always been the North Pole?

No, until 1967 it was Dunstable. Which, coincidentally, is also where Jesus was born.

SenecaFalls

Hate “Santa”. “San’a!!” in annoying American accent.

Do you find all American accents annoying or just some? I think mine is quite charming actually

I'm sure there are loads of different Southern accents so saying this will be almost as dumb as some of the posts on here but I love Southern accents.

Always been Father Christmas in our family and will be with my kids

Oddly referring to children as "kids" is a real bugbear of mine. I never describe children as "kids".

Santa feels inflatable snowman, plastic tat, false celebration of a Christian festival (and yes it’s in the name regardless of early English winter celebrations). It conveys nothing but self indulgence and excess - not what Christmas is actually about.

Funnily enough the opposite is closer to the truth. Originally Santa Claus and Father Christmas were two distinct characters. Saint Nicholas, despite his reputation for gift-giving, was more of a stuffy authoritarian type concerned with piety and good behaviour. Father Christmas, on the other hand, was the personification of Christmas spirit and was said to encourage eating, drinking and the general spirit of "excess" that we associate with the festive period. It is only relatively recently that the two characters and sets of characteristics have merged together.

I love Southern accents.

Ah, thank you, Lass.

People commenting that Santa is often called Santy, especially in Ireland, reminds me that Santy is also used in the US South, particularly by older people. I could be wrong, but I don't think that's common elsewhere in the US.

Saint Nicholas, despite his reputation for gift-giving, was more of a stuffy authoritarian type concerned with piety and good behaviour.

Indeed. In some Nineteenth Century illustrations, he is seen sporting a birch rod as well as presents.

@Creambun2 thanks for the private message telling me my comment was deleted. I have no problem with that at all. Seems like you can dish it out with your racial slurs but you can't take it again, merry christmas, I hope santa comes

lorelai I didn’t even bother responding to that racist shit. OP is a Grade A...well, we’ll leave it there.

@MadMags you're absolutely right there, I shouldn't have bothered either...😊

Aaaamazing.

I'm sure there are loads of different Southern accents so saying this will be almost as dumb as some of the posts on here but I love Southern accents.

I met a Southern man recently and his accent was just the dreamiest and creamiest thing. He could have been reading the instructions on the back of a pack of Senokot and I'd still have been all 😍😗😘

Op just pm'd me again to say "yep, you really are doing great things for Irish heritage". Bizzare, I never once said anything about Irish heritage, Santa has nothing to do with Irish heritage! She is a sad little creature. All I did was call her out on a racial slur.

@MadMags is that the only reason my comment was deleted?! I did wonder because there was nothing particularly offensive in it

OP stop being such a tragic scaredy cat and post on the thread itself.