To hate the now common usage of "santa"

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Just this really. Santa is a vulgar Americanism.

What was wrong with father Christmas ffs.

I prefer Father Christmas.

No, I’m not an old-fashioned stuffy try-hard person saying it for social climbing reasons. It’s just what I’ve always called him.

For most English speakers outside the US, Santa's an American import along with Hallowe'en and Black Friday and "carols

Just because they think it, that doesn't make it true.

Love the way that some English people assume that they constitute "most English speakers" and ignore the comments from all the Scots, Welsh, Irish, Australians......

Fantastic that someone has a letter from their Scottish granny written in 1898 addressed to "Santa Clause" as a young child. Given the lack of mass media back then, she either called him that because it was well grounded in Scottish tradition or she had been brainwashed from across the Atlantic!

They are a tiny minority of English speakers, in fact. BTW English people, you say yoghurt wrong as well!

Not an Americanism at all. But, mostly, Get a life.

It’s definitely some English people rather than all dismissing Scots/Irish heritage and language. I think people forget that the UK isn’t a homogenous group of people, there are different cultures/languages/dialects/traditions all over the place.

Sorry UK and Ireland. Bit of a stupid mistake to make given the point I was trying to make! Sorry Ireland

How are Christmas carols American?

Father Christmas and Santa are two different entities! The former lives in Lapland, where all the reindeer come from. The latter, however, apparently lives at the North Pole

Nah, MY Father Christmas lives at the North Pole not Lapland. Lapland is another recent thing, hasn't it always been the North Pole?

No they aren't.

hasn't it always been the North Pole?

Well yeah, but the North Pole doesn't have hotels that you can handily spend ££££ to stay at in the run up to Christmas.

Wtf are you 'supposed' to say instead of carols? Wassails?

Yes but it just sounds so anodyne, whereas looking forward to Christmas has that magical air

I haven't looked forward to Christmas for decades but I do look forward to my end of year holiday.

The poster who claims Halloween is an American import displays a quite astonishing ignorance.

Just saw a poster for a film about Charles dickens - 'the man who invented Christmas'. Errrrrr, hmmmmmm, nooooo. 🤔

Reading this thread it's more a regional thing not American

North East Santa/Santie
Scotland Santa
Ireland Santa

My ancestors were Irish and quite a few of them and others moved from Ireland to Scotland and the North East

Maybe it's and Irish import not an American one.

I much prefer Father Christmas. It was always Father Christmas when I was a child and I never heard 'Santa' except for on US films and programmes. I know it's not a US import but those were the only things it seemed to be used in.

*your!! Stupid autocorrect

Where I am in Fife, it's unheard of to say Father Christmas. Everyone says Santa, and always has. To me, Father Christmas is an Englishism. In fact, the only person I know who says Father Christmas is my uncle, who spent 30 years living in Hampshire!

Carols (the term or the things themselves - a US import? What? ?

Brought up in London by parents of Irish decent, always been Santa(Saint)

I live in london with Irish born dad and an English mother, I've always refererred to him as Father Christmas.

descent not decent!

Halloween is an Irish and Scottish export to the US. Carols are a British export to the US. Even Thanksgiving is an English export.

Black Friday, though, I agree. That one is on us.

Hate “Santa”. “San’a!!” in annoying American accent.

Always been Father Christmas in our family and will be with my kids.