To hate the now common usage of "santa"

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Just this really. Santa is a vulgar Americanism.

What was wrong with father Christmas ffs.

Daily mail editorials is an anagram of ideally I alarm idiots.

Santa doesn't reward people for good behavior with absolution for their sins and an eternity in heaven.... People should be nice for niceness itself, not just for their own benefit.

These two statements are contradictory.

At least Santa's real. (I've seen him in Debenhams.)

Is this really big problem for you OP?! REALLY! Come on. Surely this is a wind up?!

But when Santa gives presents to the poor, rich people will no longer feel the necessity to do the same. Rich people are already a main source of souls for Satan (Marc 10:23-25). But by discouraging rich people further to be charitable, it becomes even more likely that their souls will become Satan's after judgment day.

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Hold on til I give you the Bullshit Of The Day award. I'm sure it's lying around here in the back, along with the amount of fucks I give about Christmas becoming secular...

I could talk to you about the pagan roots of Xmas, and how it's a bit pathetic if you're only charitable out of fear of Satan. But I don't feel like banging my head against that brick wall today.

Father Christmas and Santa are two different entities! The former lives in Lapland, where all the reindeer come from. The latter, however, apparently lives at the North Pole, where nothing much else lives - and certainly no reindeer!

Father Christmas is the 'real' one who visits UK children at Christmas. Santa is merely a dastardly imposter!

I use both. I must be confused. It was always F.C. when I was growing up, but then vulgarity kicked in and now I seem to call him Santa more often,

I love how 80sMum has missed an entire thread of Scottish and Irish people saying that Santa is what the Christmas present delivery man is called in their neck of the woods

Julie8008 are you on glue?

Loving Julie's far reaching analysis....

But on another note why does Father Christmas/Santa, whoever, always give rich kids better presents? Not great re-distribution of wealth....

Another ancient Scot here, always been Santa Clause.

Who cares what people say? We all know what they mean whatever name they call him.

At the end of the day isn't Christmas / Santa Claus / Father Christmas (or whatever you want to call it) supposed to be about love, fun and happiness not snobbery and a misplaced belief you are somehow superior? Bet Christmas is a barrel of laughs in your house OP.

I knew as soon as 'good taste V vulgar' was mentioned Crumbs would pop up! I'm sure Issac Crumb favorite son never dared utter anything as common as 'santa' while he was dutifully eating his jacket potato and prawns 😉

And yes, it's always been Santa Claus in my family (another Scot)

Just the same. I balk at the fact that I’m taking DS to ‘Santa’s Grotto’ and replace any ‘Santa’s with ‘FC’ when we’re reading Christmas books - I’ll be scuppered when he learns to read!

You're out of your tiny little minds if you think Santa (Santy) to those in Ireland is remotely bothered by English people needing to have Father Christmas. It's not.an Americanism, it came from Irish and Scottish ancestry and Santa is real. Your pejorative version of an American Santa is on you. Father Christmas can be as English as you like but Santy is as old if not older!!!

At the end of the day isn't Christmas ... supposed to be about love

I thought it was about decorating, lights, adverts, Santa, presents, eating, drinking, partying, sleeping in , bad TV and a few days off work. Its never been connected with love, your confusing it with Valentines day.

This "it comes from Ireland and Scotland therefore it's correct" and "Christmas is originally pagan".

Yeah, yeah, maybe so, but it was so long ago that it's irrelevant now. For most English speakers outside the US, Santa's an American import along with Hallowe'en and Black Friday and "carols".

Father Christmas in our house, and no, we're not English.

For most English speakers outside the US, Santa's an American import

Nope.

Can say that as an Australian.

I've only ever heard English people refer to Santa as "Father Christmas". I've certainly never heard it from an Irish or Scottish person. Doubt we've all been so virulently infiltrated by the Americans, while the English seem to have somehow avoided it. Just doesn't quite ring accurate.

I think you’re dead right. Where the hell is Father Christmas and why isn’t he losing his shit over this name appropriation thing?

Man up, father c!

I don’t have a problem with the term Holiday either, that really is an Americanism. I prefer Father Christmas to Santa though.

I don’t like the term ‘The Holidays’ to refer to Christmas although I get it. From a personal perspective it just sounds all wrong. However, if calling it ‘Christmas’ offends people then so be it

I really don't think saying Christmas offends people in the US, but the use of "holidays" arose originally to be inclusive of non-Christian holidays, especially Jewish ones, during the season. It's been the practice among many people for a long time.

Yes but it just sounds so anodyne, whereas looking forward to Christmas has that magical air.

It’s all about what we’re used to, though, isn’t it.

I think it's also important to note that there are far more practicing Christians in the US than in the UK, and a much higher percentage of the population attends worship services on a regular basis. Christmas is not as secular as it is in the UK. Interestingly, I think the impulse to use inclusive greetings for people whose religion you don't know is related to the fact that religion plays a large role in society as a whole.

This "it comes from Ireland and Scotland therefore it's correct" and "Christmas is originally pagan".

Yeah, yeah, maybe so, but it was so long ago that it's irrelevant now. For most English speakers outside the US, Santa's an American import along with Hallowe'en and Black Friday and "carols".

That would only make sense if everyone in Ireland and Scotland had stopped using the name 'Santa' in the interim and then switched back once those pesky American films re-introduced it to them. Which seems incredibly unlikely.

No 'holidays' here... it's Christmas or more accurately 'The Christmas' as in; ' are you all set for The Christmas?' or 'how did you get over The Christmas?'

Santa's an American import along with Hallowe'en and Black Friday and "carols".

Never mind Santa, Halloween is NOT an American import either.