To hate the now common usage of "santa"

[Creambun2]

Just this really. Santa is a vulgar Americanism.

What was wrong with father Christmas ffs.

I'm 51 and it's always been Santa. Never called him Father Christmas in my life. Also Scottish if that makes a difference.

It's always been Santa for me too, in Scotland. Father Christmas has only ever been in stuffy old fashioned books.

Ugh, another vulgar Brit who thinks everything different to what they know is bad, and a cultural threat.

Always Father Christmas (or FC) here. But also always Santa's Grotto.

Vulgar? cringe. I’m 37 and it’s always been Santa/Santa Claus since I remember.

All "Americanisms" are vulgar on Mumsnet. . .

I refuse to say santa and correct my children,.to say Father Christmas

Oh what a joy it must be for the children. Merry Christmas, one and all.

What was wrong with father Christmas ffs.

Nothing. Just as there is nothing wrong with Santa Clause either.

What I do find something wrong with, is the snarky 'vulgar Americanism' comment. It's a shite thing to say and makes you sound like a knob.

God who cares? Still a fat bloke who brings presents either way.

I’m 44 and he’s always been known as Santa in my circles. I’m in Scotland

I'm in my late 30s, Scottish and he has always been Santa to me!
Hope Santa's good to you OP!

I'm with you OP. It's the thin end of the wedge.

I'm with you OP. It's the thin end of the wedge.

Santa is a shortened version of Saint Nicholas (Sinterklaass / Sint Nicolaas) and as such is much closer to the origins of the character than Father Christmas. I refuse to say Father Christmas as the name ignores the roots of story. But middle class people up and down the country seem to think it's awfully common and beneath them, which just goes to show how bloody pretentious they are, since they aren't well educated enough to understand that Santa certainly isn't an Americanism nor anything new. Santa Claus/ St Nicholas was replaced by the name Father Christmas in the 16th century, after the Reformation.

The actual American name for him is Kris Kringle, but this was replaced by Santa Claus when Dutch settlers brought their (correct and) original name for the character over with them.

Santa Santa Santa Santa Santa Santa Santa Santa

Say his name, get it right.

Canadian now living in Scotland here. I say Santa, as will DS whenever he learns to speak.

Can I say that my traditions and those of the Scots I live beside being referred to as vulgar is frankly insensitive and closed-minded, especially as previous posters have pointed out that Santa is quite common across Scotland (which is, last I checked, still part of the UK).

Yeah a country who elects trump ia really a sign of good taste

I know what you mean, OP. The name Santa Claus comes from Europe, but was transported to the US, and has now come back to us via them. In much the same way as many words that were originally "old English".

I really dislike the speed at which American words are taking over from British English, for example "poop" and "butt". What's wrong with poo and bum? So much funnier. I think the Americans tend to try to make everything non-offensive "oh my gosh", "tidbits", and suck all the soul out of the language.

So it's Father Christmas in this house too. He's much jollier.

GF

Jeeeez, listen to yourself OP, you started a thread about Father Christmas/Santa Claus and now you're trying to get all political.

I feel for you OP. The magic of Christmas has clearly missed you.

Creambun2 perhaps think about changing your name to Creambunfight2, yeah?

And maybe try google next time.

I bet you're one of those people who insists on saying Mothering Sunday instead of Mother's Day aren't you OP?