To hate the now common usage of "santa"

[Creambun2]

Just this really. Santa is a vulgar Americanism.

What was wrong with father Christmas ffs.

pax

He bought the towels and water

He is the third wise man and actually brought something useful!!

Go captain Christmas

christina

Yep...im officially out of the box

For some Father Christmas has pagan origins - but then so does the tradition of hanging holly, Christmas tree, yule logs etc...

I was raised with Father Christmas (south of England) and from my quick research it seems the character of Father Christmas as the presiding spirit of Christmas first came about around the civil war period when Royalist printed pamphlets using his character to criticize the Puritans in parliament for abolishing abolishing the church celebration of Christmas. (see wikepedia).

Dammit

Note to self...dont tell christina you are out of the box until she is safely tied down with tinsel and cant warn anyone

Podge and they shouldn’t have been rude, Father Christmas is just as valid as Santa Claus.

I suspect however it’s a reaction to years of MNers complaining about the vulgarity of Halloween and how it’s an American import.

Of people not realising that English class signifiers are often not relevant in other parts of the UK.

Of being accused of being a troll if you mention a school holiday that doesn’t match England and Wales.

Of the general frustration that MN yet again reveals quite how little people in England appear to know about life in Scotland, Ireland and (I assume Wales).

Oh, he was the birthing partner, Rufus? That can't have been good for Mary's reputation. How many not-the dads did she have in attendance ?

What's the rule about an inflatable Jesus? I do see that inflatable snowmen are not what Christmas is about.

Father Christmas is cissexist. What if they identified as a woman or non-binary? Saying ‘Santa’ is more appropriate, it doesn’t assume their gender

pax

Well i think her reputation was shot by then to be honest

I was thinking of buying some metal penguins for the back garden

If i call it a patio does that make it better or worse

I think as long ad he has an inflatable donkey then that is okay. Don't place him to close to the aga mind

Honestly, the ignorance on this thread. It's always been Santa in Ireland.

Christmas is definitely not about penguins. Buy donkeys instead.

Bit like these

Oh

Ok

Give me a minute

No donkey but i think it might light up

See Rufus, Christina agrees. Donkeys. Metal or inflatable as soon as we have confirmation about the inflatable Jesus.

My inflatable Jesus sings 4 electronic tunes, including Jingle Bells and Santa Claus is coming to town.

There is a camel! What do you call a three-humped camel?

No donkey

Hahahahahahahahahahahahahhahahahaha

I would change your crackers this year pax

I notice their is no Father Christmas in that scene. History re-written! It is a conspiracy. Those consumerist Santa supporters trying to minimise Father Christmas' leading role in the whole story!

This thread gets earlier every year. True. It is so very uncultured to talk about Christmas before Advent Sunday. A faux pas almost surpassing Santa.

A tad disappointed with your efforts there Rufus, no donkey or Father Christmas?