To think getting quite drunk with a baby is odd??

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NC as could be outing.

So we are suppose to be visiting friends this weekend. They have a 6 month old we have a toddler. They want to go out for dinner and drink then go back to theirs and pop open the champagne. Apparently they have quite a few bottles. My DP friend then said he's going to guzzle the wine and his wife will be drinking too.

Obviously most of the drinking will be when the kids are in bed but AIBU to think you wouldn't do this?? What if something happened like an emergency and you needed to go out or the baby needed something. I wouldn't want to get really drunk while caring for my D'S.

I'm all for having fun and a laugh but a glass or 2 not 3 bottles of champagne and guzzling wine!

AIBU or would other people do this?

What makes you santimonious, is exporting your (extreme) choices onto other people as moral judgments that you're better because you've given up doing something you never enjoyed in the first place

I judge no-one for their choices. At no point did I ever suggest that any parent who does this is wrong, nor that they should choose differently? The OP asked if others would do the same as her. I would. If anyone feels that my choices automatically are better than theirs, that's their problem, not mine. My choices suit my situation and I gave an example of something I feel is a risk to me in my area, which is why I make my choices. Your area might have taxis and ambulances coming out of your arses on a friday night, you might have family close by or neighbours you know you can rely on. I have none of that so make sure someone is always sober. If I lived right next to A&E I might think differently. It's not about judging anyone, it is about doing what suits you in your situation. If me choosing not to drink around my kids is such a problem to you that you want to label me as extreme or sanctimonius, then that's your problem, not mine.

It always makes me smile how non-drinkers who disagree with aspects of drinking alcohol such as the driving limit, caring for children and alcohol on a lunch break are immediately called sanctimonious and preachy, boring or miserable

I've already told you that it isn't non drinking that gets you called sanctimonious and miserable: its just you being sanctimonious and miserable.
Is there something you aren't understanding about that?

the whole point of this thread foo is that the non-drinkers are judging the op's friends for their anticipated choices around drinking.

no, I've got no problem at all with anyone not drinking for any reasons, as I made VERY clear, I do have an issue with you advising others to do the same as if that's morally better for THEM.

You don’t sound like you like your friends much op?

**come on - that is disorderedly over-anxious to never drink in case there is an issue and an ambulance can't get to you, there are no taxis and no neighbours to help.- can't put it into bold

To be honest no one knows when ever there will be an emergency. My son came down stairs one night complaining of his lips and an hour later we had to walk into the hospital with his eyes starting to swell with an alerigic reaction and blisters appearing all over him. Granted it has happened once in the 9 years he has been on this earth but I'm so glad I was fully coherent to be able to deal with it as I was on my own. I know with me anyways one or two drinks has a small effect and call me overprotective but that's the way I work and will always

Perhaps you should not have used it as an anecdote as to why parents should not drink?
Don't backtrack now that people have pointed out what a shameful thing you were suggesting
I didn't use it as an anecdote as to why parents should not drink, I used it as one reason why I don't.

"People" haven't. You have. The premise on which you based your post was mistaken. I can't help it if you misinterpret the post. If by "back-tracking" you mean "correcting someone's error" then I can't see why that shouldn't happen.

How am I being sanctimonious and miserable?

Do you know me to be aware of my emotional state? Or are you merely implying that I'm miserable because I choose not to consume one particular type of liquid? I don't drink coffee or fizzy drinks either. Does that make me more miserable?

I don’t know why you bother being friends with these people. You disagree with their lifestyle choices and bitch about them on an online forum. Just don’t socialise with them if you disagree with their behaviour.

It makes you miserable because you've stopped socialising with your friends because they like to have a drink ProfessorCat

I wouldn't: they idea of dealing with a baby during the night when drunk and in the morning when hungover sounds hideous!

@Bluekittykitty. Miners are perfectly fine to look after themselves. It's the minors you want to watch carefully.

Originalfoogirl

Sorry but you did insinuate that the parents were responsible for the death of their dc becuase they had been drinking.

Black out, falling down, slurring speech drunk: NOT OK. IMO.

A few glasses (especially if it's only one out of two or more adults): OK in normal circumstances.

Also it depends on other circumstances: ill child likely needing a hospital and no good access other than a car means it's more irresponsible; round us it's 6-9£ for a taxi to the nearest hospitals and you can't really park there, so the driving thing is irrelevant.

it's clear the Op here is projecting based on her unpleasant childhood experience of being dragged around pubs, just as it's also clear the DP in question is a bit of a Peter Pan. It remains to be seen whether the DM is also going to get paraletic.

other than that, we can't establish any universally agreed drinking guidelines here except that most people think it's fine to have a few drinks in your own home and a minority wouldn't due to the possibility an unlikely tradegy strikes and they are unable to drive, access an ambulance/taxi/friends/family member to get to a hospital.

mum if it makes you happier not to drink, that's good for you. Everyone has to own their own choices and what you and I do is different but perfectly legal. As for me, I've handled work calls and put code in after having 3-4 glasses of wine - that required concentration far above seeing a child related emergency and calling 999.

I know with me anyways one or two drinks has a small effect

But that’s you. Some people have a much higher tolerance. I could have three large glasses of wine and still be completely able to deal with an emergency.

It makes you miserable because you've stopped socialising with your friends because they like to have a drink

Where have I said that? I don't socialise with certain people who drink drive or drink to excess but those type of people wouldn't be my friends in the first place. My friends are mostly non drinkers anyway and I haven't stopped socialising with any of them.

That still wouldn't explain why I'd be miserable and is a big claim to make when you don't know anything about my life or my friendship circles.

I'm not seeing that mybestfriend I'm seeing a few making a judgement, but I (and others) are being called out simply for stating what we do and why.

I couldn't care less what you all do, I don't want to do that. Apparently simply stating that makes me sanctimonious and judgey.

i'm sure the general consensus on booze is very clear: I can't think of anyone that would seriously defend both parents of a preteen getting paralytic at the same time.

That's obvious. Everything else is a grey area. Most sensible adults don't drink until passing out except for the odd mistake because the hangover consequences are too severe.

Please stop misquoting / misinterpreting the poster who mentioned neighbours and friends helping. What she said has been taken out of context

"Nothing will happen to the babies. If it did, there are taxis, neighbours, friends to help rush them to hospital. But nothing will happen"

Her post could well be aimed at someone who was worried about not having a car or a license (like myself??). She isn't suggestion parents get smashed and rely on other people, merely pointing out that in an absolute emergency there are people who can help???

Lots of parents do it, and your children will be fine. I''m not a fan of being drunk in front of children, I absolutely don't think thats good, but a few glasses is fine. BUT, if something does happen and you need to go to A&E with one of your children and you are hammered, 1. they won't let you take your child home until you've sobered up (which will almost certainly involve and admission for your child)and 2. they will fill in a cause for concern form which will go to the health visitor, GP and school.......and the fall out from that is really not fun.

Tbh professor you aren't making yourself sound like the life of the party. What's wrong with a cup of coffee ffs 😂😂

People" haven't. You have. The premise on which you based your post was mistaken. I can't help it if you misinterpret the post

Nope, several people have said the same as me. Nice try though. You know what you meant, as do we all.

ProfessorCAT I'm not sure how much clearer one can be to you. You are smug and sanctimonious, which has nothing to do with your status as a non drinker.
Why are you clinging to the notion that we don't like what you say because you don't drink? It's only because we don't like what you say!

DH and I will both have a drink with a meal or when DS is in bed but definitely wouldn't both get drunk. If I'm responsible for him I want to be coherent enough to take a temperature, remember his last bowel movement, carry him downstairs and sign medical consent forms fully understanding what I'm doing. I know what amount Fl alcohol I can do that on. I tend not to have anything if ita just me and DS at home

Thank fuck for that, grime. I wouldn't want to be the life of a party.

I can't have caffeine for health reasons. You seem a little thick - lots of people choose not to eat or drink things for many, many different reasons. Where have I ever said there is anything wrong with drinking coffee?

no foo you implied you didn't drink as you read a story about a girl dying due to lack of ambulances and posited not drinking as an obvious response to that story, which it isn't AT ALL.

A more obvious response is to hold the government to better account for why there were no ambulances rather than blaming the parents (victims).