to wonder why Corbyn isn't more popular considering the battering Theresa May/the Tories is getting?

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The Tories/Theresa May have been getting an absolute kicking in the press recently (rightly deserved) and every day there seems to be a new controversy. May seems completely inefficient and doesn't seem to know whether she is coming or going (literally).

However, I am surprised that Corbyn/Labour is not polling higher. On all the polls I have looked at his rating seems to be either equal to, very slightly above or very slightly below May. He should be well out in front at this point.

I am not a Corbyn/Labour fan (although agree with a lot of their policies) but I am wondering why is he not polling better?

The Tories don't want regular people to be educated do they?

Has it been a figment of my imagination that universities have been pretty busy over the last decade?

makeourfuture

The debt - as it always does - is skyrocketing under Tory bungling.

I'm sorry, what was the deficit the last brutally incompetent Labour Government left us? £150 billion a year, wasn't it?

That deficit has now been slashed to a fraction of what it was by the Tories:

www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-39897498

The amount being borrowed each year has been reduced from 9.9% of GDP when the coalition government took power in 2010 to 2.6% of GDP in 2016 under the Conservative government, a reduction of almost three-quarters.

Bad luck - ask Momentum for better notes!

Here are Labour's Five Key Demands from this Budget:

• Pause the roll-out of Universal Credit to fix delays in benefits payments
• Fund public sector pay rises
• Put more money into infrastructure such as road and rail projects
• Increase funding for health, education, and local government
• Launch a large-scale house-building programme.

Wonderlime - Which policies are too extreme? What is about him that makes him a communist? How would you suggest you try to improve contentious situations, if not talk with the opposing side?

Lol, when did he last talk to the Israelis? The whole point is that he should speak to representatives of both sides, not just his "friends" Hamas and Hezbollah if he genuinely wants to be an objective observer.

I was fairly unhappy about the last GE, but voted for the party I honestly felt was the best of a very bad lot; and who I trusted more overall to do the least harm in the next 4 years (Conservative).

I didn't vote happily, but I did so with a clear conscience that it was a choice I made for the good of the country, not just me, and it was better than the alternative.

That's all we can do. I note with no surprise whatsoever that the disgusting level of vitriol is coming one way again

Tory Debt Soars.

Labour's Key Demands continued:

1. A unicorn in every pot.
2. Free benefits for all and unlimited taxes to pay for them.
3. Maths lessons for Diane Abbott (most expensive Budget item).
4. All local high streets to become collective farms.

10. Re-education camps for all kulaks in the vicinity of Scunthorpe.

ginsandtonic you forgot
11. All people we think are a bit old and rich to pay for everything for the young and facebook-savvy

Lol at labour not liking offshore trusts (as if that were true anyway, given how much the use of them soared under Blair and brown) but happily renting its HQ from one!

@makeourfuture The national debt increased regardless of who was in power.

www.economicshelp.org/blog/7568/debt/government-debt-under-labour-1997-2010/

Guido Fawkes order-order.com/2017/11/06/labour-rent-hq-offshore-trust/

McDonnell on tax avoidance (as reported):

He said the Paradise Papers showed that Labour could raise even more from cracking down on tax avoidance

More bad news ... for the Labour Party. And from the Guardian as well, how could they?!

www.theguardian.com/business/2017/oct/20/uk-budget-deficit-narrows-philip-hammond-obr-brexit

UK budget deficit narrows to lowest September level since 2007

Analysts said that if tax and spending plans remain on course for the rest of the financial year, the exchequer will undershoot official predictions for the annual 2017-18 deficit – the gap between government income and expenditure – by around £10bn, pushing it nearer to £48bn than the official forecast of £58bn.

I.e. the deficit is now one-third of what Gordon Brown left us. Could things be better? Absolutely. But they could also be a hell of a lot worse.

A lot of people I know seem to see the choice right now is between a crap Tory government or har core socialism.

It’s like choosing your favorite land mine to step on.

Aye, labour really love paying tax. Provided it's other people doing it:

www.google.co.uk/amp/www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2016/08/05/labour-avoided-paying-tax-on-43-million-worth-of-profits-last-ye/amp/

A lot of people I know seem to see the choice right now is between a crap Tory government or hard core socialism.

Sadly there's a lot of truth in that. Hard core socialism would hurt my family pretty badly, but the one small silver lining would be seeing all the Corbyn fans crying "Wait, you want to tax the shit out of ... me?! But I thought you meant tax all the nasty Tories, and the tax havens, and the banks, and the businesses. You didn't mean little old me, did you, with my little flat and my little pension?"

Yes, yes, he does mean you. You can't have a socialist revoluion without cracking a hell of a lot of eggs.

Labour are hypocrites.

The Tories are cunts but they're honest about it.

Labour claim to despise everything about the Tories, but are happy to be everything the claim to despise.

Incompetent, career politicians, second homes, employing family/cronies on expenses, out of touch, racist, anti-Semitic, sexist, homophobic and happy to set the Momentum dogs on anyone who disagrees, turning a blind eye to who's doing the harassing and paying lip service to the rules and regulations.

m.huffingtonpost.co.uk/entry/jeremy-corbyn-womens-plp-momentum-online-abuse-metro-mayor-selections-luciana-berger-jess-phillips_uk_58ad5d82e4b0d0a6ef465753

If the last Labour Party government didn't prove that they're all as bad as each other, then Corbyn's reign should be the final nail in the coffin for Labour's hopes.

If he couldn't beat Teresa May outright, he's not going to win at all.

It's never good when you have to actually remove your Home secretary from an Election campaign.

’s like choosing your favorite land mine to step on.

It really scares me dor this country when people are still using terms such as terrorist sympathiser and commi. This is the tories talking and they have proved over and over again they are lying scumbags. Read into a bit about Corbyn and how he has actually spend his life. He won the Ghandi peace prize for gods sake. This country is dying because people are so influenced by the daily mail etc and their constant hate and fear.

Yep they love putting tax up.
Anyone fancy doubling their council tax?

This country is dying because people are so influenced by the daily mail etc and their constant hate and fear.

Absolutely.

It's about cuts to the NHS and education and social care. Tens of thousands of deaths (no one here seems to want to address). Cuts that have hurt the economy, not helped.

A Two Nation Tory Britain, where bankers get anything they ask for and regular people get nothing.

Neo-Feudalism.

Tories say it is about the debt, but the debt grows and grows.

What is it then?

A failed ideology of hatred.

With the tories current difficulties, Jeremy Corbyn should be all over them. Yet, as has happened before, he seems to disappear from view at a time he should be capitalising upon such difficulties. Could you imagine Ed Balls being silent, whatever your view of him?It is no good for the country not to have an effective opposition.

However be very wary of writing Corbyn off because he is a very popular figure locally especially with young people. Oldies like myself can remember the last socialist government and as a child, it was fun sat at home in the dark whilst our parents enjoyed a three day week with strike after strike. Because believe me, it wont be a socialist utopia if they won the election, it would be time to pay the piper and make good on their promises.

There seems to be a very uncomfortable silence relating to the current allegations of inappropriate behaviour cross-party. Jeremy, where are you?

Gingernauts fourth para says it all sadly.

Why no plan for Brexit? Why are they hiding the reports? Why no transparency?

How can we trust the Tories when they won't say what is happening during negotiations....or even say what their plans are?