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to wonder why Corbyn isn't more popular considering the battering Theresa May/the Tories is getting?

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mothertruck3r · 16/11/2017 08:43

The Tories/Theresa May have been getting an absolute kicking in the press recently (rightly deserved) and every day there seems to be a new controversy. May seems completely inefficient and doesn't seem to know whether she is coming or going (literally).

However, I am surprised that Corbyn/Labour is not polling higher. On all the polls I have looked at his rating seems to be either equal to, very slightly above or very slightly below May. He should be well out in front at this point.

I am not a Corbyn/Labour fan (although agree with a lot of their policies) but I am wondering why is he not polling better?

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Rebeccaslicker · 16/11/2017 11:51

I can't wait until make reaches that stage! The socialist slogans are so repetitive.

WonderLime · 16/11/2017 11:52

There'll be plenty of today's younger Labour voters who convert to Tory in a few decades time when they have more life experience.

I actually don’t think it’s because life experiences teach more political wisdom. Instead I would say that with age there becomes a stubbornness for things to remain as they are - something the Conservatives offer.

Gingernaut · 16/11/2017 11:52

Because he's benefited from the factionalisation of the Labour Party into a series of special interest groups.

Because sympathy for Palestinians has resulted in awful anti-Semitism.

Because pandering to the transgender lobby, a group of people so tiny, they are statisically insignificant and ignoring the needs of the rest of the country is not a good idea.

Because 'he seems like an OK guy' is not a leadership strategy.

Because he's ineffectual and letting the 'grass roots' doing the talking.

Because the rest of the Shadow Cabinet are scarily bad.

Kazzyhoward · 16/11/2017 11:53

Perhaps as the decades pass, the country will shift left.

Or is it that as the decades pass, the voters shift right?

Scabbersley · 16/11/2017 11:53

I think it would be hilarious if Corbyn got in.

I imagine thats why he is now taking a back seat. If Labour get in now they would have to sort out Brexit Grin I notice that he is already back tracking on the student loan promise saying it will take 10 years! I bet he is crapping himself that Labour might actually get in in the next few months!

Mind you ,the tories could do with some time in opposition.

samG76 · 16/11/2017 11:54

Does anyone remember Corbyn's commitment to a "kinder gentler" politics. But his candidates in Sheffield, Kensington and most recently Bradford have been showing obvious anti-black racism, anti-semitism, misogyny, etc, with very little sign that the party is bothered. The candidate in Bradford has resigned after saying Hitler wasn't so bad after all, but why wasn't she expelled? And even worse, why did she think there would be a place in the Labour party for someone with those views.. .

makeourfuture · 16/11/2017 11:55

The same.

The same bankers and financiers taking and taking. The same off shore movement of money.

It doesn't trickle down does it with the Tories? It floods offshore.

makeourfuture · 16/11/2017 11:58

Face up to your sick, twisted philosophy Tories. Social Darwinsim. Purging the sick and poor. The core of rightist hatred.

makeourfuture · 16/11/2017 12:01
  • Tory Debt
- Tory Death of the Sick and Disabled - Tory Failure on terrorism and safety - Tory no-plan Brexit - Tory Hatred of the Poor
ThroughThickAndThin01 · 16/11/2017 12:03

Corbyn - bleugh. Embarrassing to have him as our PM. Hope to God that never happens.

makeourfuture · 16/11/2017 12:03

The Tories don't want a fair tax system.

The Tories like offshore accounts.

No money for schools.
No money for security.
No money for the NHS.

Plenty for the bankers and playboys.

Rebeccaslicker · 16/11/2017 12:05

I didn't think that anyone could make me want to vote for Teresa May, but make is proving me wrong with every unjustified statement Grin

Corbyn knows full well that the labour commitment to sending everyone to uni and also paying all the fees is impossible. But if you want to get 18 year olds out to vote, it's a clever fish to dangle

makeourfuture · 16/11/2017 12:07

30,000 excess deaths in 2015 to cuts in health and social care

That is 2015 alone.

www.rsm.ac.uk/about-us/media-information/2017-media-releases/new-analysis-links-30000-excess-deaths-in-2015-to-cuts-in-health-and-social-care.aspx

makeourfuture · 16/11/2017 12:08

labour commitment to sending everyone to uni

The Tories don't want regular people to be educated do they?

Abra1d · 16/11/2017 12:08

Labour has totally got as much sleaze going in. Three of their MPs are being investigated for sexual harassment.

Gingernaut · 16/11/2017 12:11

Because the 'man of the ordinary working people' is a career politician like most of the Tories.

Because he has no clue what's on the mind of 'ordinary people' - if he did, the Brexit wouldn't have come as a complete surprise.

Because listening to political activists and following their agendas is not leadership.

Because Diane Abbott is a liability and finding this out in the middle of a General Election campaign is too late.

Because the ineffectual disciplinary proceedings in place against those who abuse, harass and insult minorities, women, gays and lesbians is seen as defending the accused, not the accuser.

Rebeccaslicker · 16/11/2017 12:12

Yeah, nobody went to uni during the years of Tory government. Nobody goes now, not a single student.

Where's the "massive eye roll" emoticon?!

makeourfuture · 16/11/2017 12:14

austerity can be linked to 120,000 extra deaths between 2010 and 2017

bmjopen.bmj.com/content/7/11/e017722

makeourfuture · 16/11/2017 12:15

Bloody Tory hands.

FithColumnist · 16/11/2017 12:15

Um, because lots of people still read the right-wing press, maybe?

GinsAndTonic · 16/11/2017 12:16

Because we don't want the country to be bankrupted by stupid communists? Despite the McDonnell / Corbyn blather, there simply aren't enough of the super rich to pay for a fraction of Labour's £500 billion spending plans - the MN demographic knows perfectly well that we will be the cash cow for Labour's socialist Utopia, and ain't too keen on it!

Noofly · 16/11/2017 12:16

Brexit is a big fuck up regardless of which party is putting it through. It’ll fuck up the Tories, but equally it would fuck up if Labour if they were in charge. If I were even vaguely a Labour supporter, there’s no way I would want them in anytime soon. I would let the whole Brexit fuckity fuck up get over and done with and then I’d want Labour in.

makeourfuture · 16/11/2017 12:18

If these trends continue we estimate approximately 150,000 additional deaths may arise between 2015 and 2020.

GinsAndTonic · 16/11/2017 12:19

makeourfuture - how's Momentum headquarters today? Hope they haven't got you on a zero hours contract!

www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2017/08/22/labour-council-employs-one-ten-staff-zero-hours-contracts-despite/

makeourfuture · 16/11/2017 12:19

Because we don't want the country to be bankrupted

The debt - as it always does - is skyrocketing under Tory bungling.

The need to read Keyenes for god's sake!