to wonder why Corbyn isn't more popular considering the battering Theresa May/the Tories is getting?

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The Tories/Theresa May have been getting an absolute kicking in the press recently (rightly deserved) and every day there seems to be a new controversy. May seems completely inefficient and doesn't seem to know whether she is coming or going (literally).

However, I am surprised that Corbyn/Labour is not polling higher. On all the polls I have looked at his rating seems to be either equal to, very slightly above or very slightly below May. He should be well out in front at this point.

I am not a Corbyn/Labour fan (although agree with a lot of their policies) but I am wondering why is he not polling better?

Malcolm tucker, is that you?!

Surely this is a joke thread OP! Corbyn - the terrorist sympathiser, the communist, the absolute fool?! WHY would anyone vote for him?! He is an absolute joke - and dont even get me started on his deputies. Abbott? Really?! If he did the right thing by stepping down and letting someone credible take up the position - my respect for him would go to 0.1%.

All the promises to students re the fees - just to get them on his side at the last minute, lies were they not?

Because I am alarmed by the personality cult that seems to have grown around Corbyn. It stifles debate and people who challenge his policies are seen as betraying "the cause" . Shades of other, scary regimes.

Because I think he runs a good campaign, but I've seen no evidence that he is a good leader. I don't believe he will be able to bring together the different factions in the lab party to develop a shared vision for the future of the country. The moment Labour comes to power, the vast chasms in views within the Labour Party will be brought into sharp focus. We're all kind of ignoring it now because we're focusing on the inadequacy of the Conservatives.

Because I think John Mcdonald is a vile, hideous excuse for a human being, who promotes extreme and unworkable policies. I think he is the person who is really running Labour. Corbyn is basically a puppet.

Because I'm old enough to remember the 1970's.

Because I was furious with Corbyn for his apathetic approach to Brexit, which I think will be a total fuck up.

I also think the Conservative are a total disaster. I'd rather stab myself in the eye than vote Conservative. But I pretty much feel the same about a Labour party led by Corbyn. Its not a good place to be, politically.

Agree with Neolara.

Because he doesn’t wave enough flags. People like flags, they’re pretty.

There are quite a few people who would genuinely have more flags and patriotism than a functioning society.

Bread and circuses- without even the bread.

Because Corbyn is very good at fooling his disciples in thinking he has answers to the problems without actually offering anything.

He is very anti eu, so hard brexit suits him, especially if he wants to instigate the Nationalisation of services he professes, the last GE there was no cutting back on the benefit cuts, just popular soundbites to wow the hard of thinking.

The fact that he lost against the shambles that is May and the current Tories shows how bad he his, the UK is becoming a state of "football team" politics, for evey dailmail reader there is an avid independant/canary reader who cannot see anything other than black or white.

Its funny these Tories seem to miraculously rise in popularity when there's an G.E.
No matter how 'unpopular' TM is. The Tories are here to stay now.

Spider - I guess that's because anyone who puts their head above the parapet and says they vote Tory often gets a lot of mud thrown at it! Most people are quick to put labour slogans on fb but you rarely see a Tory one. Similarly Tory posts are usually filled with labour supporters berating them. There's also a lot more noise from labour in terms of protest marches etc (ironic when you consider what they cost to police!). Tory voters didn't protest when labour won, even when Blair and brown were so clearly beyond their last gasp.

Plus a lot of Tory voters are perhaps not really in the generation that is as vocal on fb, twitter etc? I know my uncle isn't, for example, and he's somewhere to the right of genghis Khan and Margaret thatcher!!

(I.e. They don't say how they'll vote before the GE, they just do it quietly)

“Plus a lot of Tory voters are perhaps not really in the generation that is as vocal on fb, twitter etc? I know my uncle isn't, for example, and he's somewhere to the right of genghis Khan and Margaret thatcher!!”

This. The demographics of voters is quite interesting- older people are more likely to vote Tory.

There are a lot of older people and they get out and vote. Younger people less so.

Perhaps as the decades pass, the country will shift left.

OR some people might get more right wing as they get older? I do know a few Tory voters who vote blue now that they are earning well, but who started off voting red or even green.

Exactly. Priorities, and circumstances, change as people age.

That's where farage amazes me. Despite being so insufferable, with some bonkers people who would have been in the cabinet with him, and some ridiculous policies, he managed to speak to people on both the left and the right and get a huge number of them to vote UKIP. How?!

Pff, look at him - out of touch, no idea how normal folk work & live which means he has no ideas of their priorities in life.

He's too busy trying to be "down with the kids" & leaping on every bandwagon in a desperate attempt to win people over - it's fecking embarrassing to watch & I voted Conservative!!

Oh and TM does live in the real world

Look at the sound bites coming out in this thread alone; he’s a terrorist sympathiser, he’s a communitist, his policies are too extreme, he wants to take us back to the 1970s, etc

This is the main reason he’s not as popular. These ideas around Corbyn have been passed down through MSM and unfortunately they are taken as true without any critical thought.

Which policies are too extreme? What is about him that makes him a communist? How would you suggest you try to improve contentious situations, if not talk with the opposing side?

Tory cuts are killing people.

For ideology.

And yet the debt grows and grows.

A cleansing. A hatred.

Because Corbyn is bloody awful. I would vote Labour like a shot if they had a decent leader who was willing to be a bit more centrist rather than being a prat on gogglebox.

Magic money tree for bankers.

Magic money tree for contracts to friends.

The demographics of voters is quite interesting- older people are more likely to vote Tory

Many of whom voted Labour when they were younger. It's not a "age" thing, it's a wisdom/life experience thing. There'll be plenty of today's younger Labour voters who convert to Tory in a few decades time when they have more life experience.

Nothing for the sick. Nothing for schools.