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To feel sick to my stomach?

230 replies

TimeForSilence · 16/11/2017 06:58

I have NC for this as very outing.

I have spent the past 14 months going through hell at work.

I raised aco

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LakieLady · 16/11/2017 07:23

Speak to the Equalities Commission, too. This could be a sex discrimination matter.

I'd report it to the police as well. The behaviour you described could be sexual assault, so a criminal matter.

Is there any chance that one of you could be moved to a different team/office/shift etc so you no longer have to work alongside him?

Speak to your HR people again and explain that you are totally freaked out by the idea that you'll have to carry on working with him and see what they suggest.

I'm not in HR, but this sounds like dreadful practice. I'm sure if this happened where I work, he'd have been moved elsewhere. (Actually, where I work, they're so PC that my friend got a warning for inadvertently using the wrong pronoun for someone who'd just transitioned!)

So sorry you're having to go through this.

leighdinglady · 16/11/2017 07:23

I doubt you’d have to go to tribunal. Send a letter or email saying you’re claiming constructive dismissal due to sex discrimination and that you’ll be seeking legal advice. They will shit themselves. That’s what I did and I was invited in the next day to talk about the terms of my compromise agreement

NumberEightyOne · 16/11/2017 07:23

Why are you so certain they would nfa it?

TimeForSilence · 16/11/2017 07:24

Phone problems again - I never realised there was mitigation for all that.

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TimeForSilence · 16/11/2017 07:25

I spoke to a solicitor before the hearing and was advised a

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Notevilstepmother · 16/11/2017 07:25

Virtual hand hold. Get a solicitor.

TimeForSilence · 16/11/2017 07:26

Anything less than dismissal I can claim constructive dismissal.

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lightcola · 16/11/2017 07:29

Please ring acas. They are very helpful with things like this and it’s all free. Don’t let this guy and your employer get away with it.

Montythespookymouse · 16/11/2017 07:31

Definately ring Acas. This man needs sorting for the sake of not only you but of other women and girls who come and work for the company too.

TimeForSilence · 16/11/2017 07:33

I am hoping to get a official start date for the new job next week so I will formally resign then but I will stay sick until I leave.

He made me make a life changing decision by throwing his rank around. It’s not right.

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TimeForSilence · 16/11/2017 07:33

He thought he was invincible before, he knows it now.

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mousemoose · 16/11/2017 07:38

That is so awful! Def acas or equalities commission and constructive dismissal

BossyBitch · 16/11/2017 07:38

Yes to everything said here!

Speaking as someone whose harrasser wasn't sacked but only transferred as 'punishment', and as a manager who found it easier to dismiss my employee's harrasser for 'poor performance' than to get HR to agree to sack him for what was actually the problem: come down on them like a ton of bricks!

Claim constructive dismissal and sex discrimination. Go for punitive damages if you can.

I have no idea what the problem with HR departments is - but at every firm I've knowledge of they talk the talk but then won't walk the walk when the time comes. Often against the explicit wishes of not only victims but also an entire array of line managers!

It's all nice and good having a bunch of posters about 'Centering our People' and whatnot. But that would have to include not making workplaces hostile to women by prioritising harrassers over them, surely?

TimeForSilence · 16/11/2017 07:42

Thank you everyone. As soon as I get out of hospital I will ring ACAS and then chase up my now ex employer to put a reference into my new employer. I have found a solicitor and I will contact the Equalities Commissioner.

My service are currently doing a positive action recruitment campaign too. The irony.

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AtrociousCircumstance · 16/11/2017 07:42

Solicitor, formal complaint, constructive dismissal - take them to the fucking cleaners.

Fucking hell. So sorry you’ve been through this.

Don’t feel embarrassed re police. You are ex police therefore know your rights. No shame in going to the police in this case at all.

If your company won’t do the right thing then you must.

I hope his career is destroyed. Brilliant you’ve got a job lined up. Strength to you!!

TimeForSilence · 16/11/2017 07:46

I could understand if none of the allegations were found but seriously, to find him ‘guilty’ of two of the three. It’s appalling. I was in pieces yesterday, now I’m just angry.

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Hoppinggreen · 16/11/2017 07:50

I'm so sorry OP
I know this is in AIBU abut there are some really helpful employment lawyers over in The Employment section on here that give great advice

whiskyowl · 16/11/2017 07:50

I am sorry you have been through this, it is utterly unacceptable.

The only small gleam of comfort I can think of is this: there are many sanctions in a job that fall short of firing someone. While I agree with you completely that this guy should have been fired, the fact that he hasn't doesn't mean he's got away with it. He may be on a final warning, and the slightest hint of a recurrence of this behaviour will bring everything around his ears. You may have protected other women here. Flowers

TimeForSilence · 16/11/2017 07:51

It’s not even a final warning. It’s a first written warning. For 6 months.

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whiskyowl · 16/11/2017 07:52

It's not enough. I am totally with you. But at least it means that here is some fault admitted, which is a chink of light in the darkness. I agree with PPs about constructive dismissal - fight on. It sounds like a really clear-cut case, and I am sure you will win.

DartmoorDoughnut · 16/11/2017 07:56

That’s fucking disgusting. Go get them.

PollytheDolly · 16/11/2017 07:57

That’s shit!!! Angry

Let us know how you get on with ACAS. I’m so sorry you’ve gone through this and he has effectively got away with it. I hope justice prevails. Flowers

Collaborate · 16/11/2017 07:58

re the Tribunal claim you'll bring - take it to the wire. They'll be shitting themselves about the publicity, and their best offer will be made on the eve of the hearing (on condition you keep your mouth shut - this cannot apply to you reporting it to the police).

At that stage do what's best for you.

Coastalcommand · 16/11/2017 07:58

First thing you should do in your new job is join a union.

Notevilstepmother · 16/11/2017 08:01

I have to wonder if he knows something about someone.

Often people like that make sure they have something to threaten anyone who tries to discipline them.

If he’s been blasé enough to harass you in writing he’s an arrogant twat.

Good luck with it. Stay strong.