To think a 13 year old boy shouldn't use the ladies loo?

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NC for this. Recently I was in a situation where a group of people I was in went to a service station. A boy of 13 was told by his mother to come into the ladies with her rather than use the gents as it was safer.

AIBU to think that’s not OK?

@Splinterz -assuming that’s irony?

What age is the cutoff, then, sailorcherries?

And given that grown men can be, and are, also raped, should we just allow all the adult men we personally like and trust into the women's loos, too?

ITV

A man has been charged after a boy was sexually assaulted in a cinema toilet in Bolton.

XXXXX has been charged with sexual assault and bailed to appear before Bolton Magistrates Court on September 20.

The news comes after a 14-year-old boy was sexually assaulted in the toilets at Middlebrook Vue Cinema in Horwich in March.

The sooner we have mixed gender lavatories the sooner this ridiculous business of boys being 2nd class citizens will stop

Can only assume that's tongue in cheek.

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KIDSSPOT ??

is at an absolute loss about what to do. Her 11-year-old son, XX*, doesn’t feel comfortable using male public toilets. And the mother-of-two isn’t entirely at ease with it either.

“If my son needs to use the toilet, I am not comfortable sending him to the male toilets on his own because he is tall in stature but certainly not equipped to deal with any issues that may arise while he is in there on his own,” she explains to Kidspot.

This has led to the poor boy being verbally abused by complete strangers on numerous occasions for using both female and disabled toilets instead.

“I once had him use the ladies toilet, while I too was using the facility, and he finished earlier than me and a lady ripped into him saying ‘what the f**k are you doing in here? You're big enough to use the men's toilet!” Carla explains.

“This upset him and he was nearly crying because he's not used to being spoken to like that from a perfect stranger.”

@doodle01 oh bloody hell. As I’ve said my 10 year Old usually goes in alone. As if that’s happening now!

The answer is to change most toilets to unisex self contained cubicles (like disabled toilets often are) with smaller single sex ones like there are now. Plus specific disabled ones. This would solve over crowding in female toilets at peak times and children with an opposite sex parent with them.

It's never going to happen because of the cost and space implications though. It would be great if new buildings were forced to have that kind of set up though.

Yep take him in the girls just be prepared for the backlash

Archery I've already mentioned my view point on the cut off.

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Men wanted for rape of 14-year-old boy in shop toilet
"Supt. Stuart XX issues an appeal on behalf of Greater Manchester Police to find two men wanted over the rape of a 14-year-old boy in a department."

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Two men have been jailed for raping a teenage boy in the toilets of a Debenhams store.

XXXX 55, and XXXX 42, abducted their 14-year-old victim in Manchester's Arndale Centre on a busy Saturday afternoon last summer.
They marched him to the toilets of a nearby Debenhams where they carried out a "sustained attack" on him

I think this attitude of girls deserve safe spaces but men don’t is causing many people to raise very horrid girls.

Who said men don;t deserve safe spaces?

I am all for sex segregation in places like loos, changing rooms and so on. For both safety reasons and privacy ones. I have never seen anyone argue that only women should have female only areas and men have no male only? Have seen plenty of places decide that female areas are unisex though, and that male remains male.

It really is about time people started to tackle male violence and quite why noone seems to want to use the male loos. Rather than just shifting the problem onto women.

Would you like me to start sharing incidences of girls being raped in public toilets...? Or does it only count if its boys?

Perhaps the 13 year old may be permitted to have a diddle with the girls

No. It's a female space.

It was a mum protecting her child - really

Does anybody actually know the law on this? Because really that’s all that actually matters in terms of if it’s allowed or not. I tried looking but couldn’t find anything.

Separate unisex cubicles all the way.

Its perverse that we have a situation where a woman made a safeguarding decision for her male child which is now subject to much criticism by I assume other women.

The thread was about a 13 year old boy in a toilet with him mum not about safety of girls but we could discuss if the world is flat also if you want

doodle01 do you take your DS into the women's toilets?

I find it interesting how many suggest all toilets should be sex neutral as that's how it used to be when public toilets first started. It was common sense to just have one. It took many women fighting through many years of violent assaults and restricting themselves in public to avoid sex neutral toilets for sexed toilets to come into common practice. While single unit unisex ones can be great, and many have worked hard to make them more common with large units for families or carers or groups, the ways most public toilets are designed are not with mixed-sex interactions and safety in mind. Work needs to be done better and more accessible toilets, not just let everyone vulnerable into the women's loos.

I know no mumnetters' sons would do this, but someone's sons are sexually harassing and threatening their peers in public spaces even when their parents and other adults are around. Some think it is game to see if they can say it quiet enough for only the girls hear so the girls look foolish if they react. My daughters have already been targeted, it was great fun explaining to a sobbing seven-year-old why the older boys (all less than 13) are saying what items they want to put into her vagina and will they really do...yeah. Neither I nor my kids can tell at a look which ones are going to say or do something. No one wants to say it's their son doing it. So yeah, both my daughters would be horrified to find larger boys in their toilets, certainly more horrified than my 13-year-old son was when I asked if he would feel safer going into the women's loo with me ("Please don't"). But as one of the taller boys, he's pretty understanding that some people of either sex find him intimidating.

The thread was about a 13 year old boy in a toilet with him mum not about safety of girls but we could discuss if the world is flat also if you want

But by that token all your reports are useless unless they specifically refer to where the OP was...

And given the stats of assault on females, a male in a female toilet could absolutely result in a discussion surrounding female safety

"Its perverse that we have a situation where a woman made a safeguarding decision for her male child which is now subject to much criticism by I assume other women."
There is no law which says that women have to automatically agree with other women. And I most definitely disagree with a woman taking a NT 13 year old boy into the women's loo with her. Unless they were in downtown Bogota or somewhere........

Id have difficulty in female toilets for sure

Thought so Doodle - another Men's Rights type here to tell the silly women how it is

I think his 15:21 post sums doodle up

A diddle?