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Muslim Christmas Advert

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IHATEPeppaPig · 13/11/2017 09:56

Apparently people are outraged by the Tesco Christmas advert featuring Muslim women exchanging gifts and it’s causing daily mail readers to implode.

It literally is 2 seconds of the advert and is women in hijabs handing over a Tesco’s bag - Tesco’s tag line is #everyonewelcome

I’m not a person of faith and I celebrate Christmas why is it seemingly unacceptable for others to celebrate it? AIBU to be annoyed at the outrage and think most of the people who are livid about it are probably hypocrites who won’t go to church on Christmas anyway?

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JetCityWoman · 13/11/2017 10:29

I grew up in birmingham. A lot of my muslim and sikh friends celebrated xmas along side us. They loved it. They incorporated it into their own faiths. It became a winter celebration, certainly need that mid winter pick me up here in the UK!

The whole muslims celebrating xmas in this country has been going on for decades. I wish the daily fail readers understood that cultural integration was happening long before the Fail declared it wasn't.

3Gifts41 · 13/11/2017 10:30

"I wonder how many people in that advert aren't......Christians?"

lol exactly.

MyBeautifulMohawk · 13/11/2017 10:31

People object because it means they can no longer say that The Muslims are trying to ban Christmas.

Some people have become so entrenched in the idea that Islam/Muslims are the 'baddies' that they literally malfunction when presented with something that contradicts that belief.

Needmoresleep · 13/11/2017 10:31

Nadiya off Bake Off recently published her Christmas menu. And why not.

mygorgeousmilo · 13/11/2017 10:32

My neighbours on both sides are Muslim. They don’t do trees and gifts etc, but they give us Christmas cards. I give them thank you cards to say thank you for being lovely neighbours, and to wish them well for the year ahead. Last year we have them some shortbread too, and they give us lovely food at Ramadan. Who are these wanky complainers?? As above, I applaud any move that makes Daily Mail readers vomit into their Waitrose Christmas pud. It’s so cheesy to say it, but ffs, nice people are aware when someone is being nice to them back. Nobody in my house rejects the insanely delicious Ramadan offerings as being wrong or weird, just because we don’t personally celebrate. Being nice to each other trumps any kind of perceived cultural faux pas.

mygorgeousmilo · 13/11/2017 10:33

MyBeautifulMohawk

People object because it means they can no longer say that The Muslims are trying to ban Christmas.

Exactly!

MrsJayy · 13/11/2017 10:33

There is also a turban wearing man in the advert not one person has said but seikhs don't celebrate christmas 😕

IHATEPeppaPig · 13/11/2017 10:35

@MrsJayy yes, I noticed that too!!!!!

Christmas for me is about being kind, it’s about compassion and family - why can’t everyone just be nice and celebrate together.

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sagamartha · 13/11/2017 10:35

There is also a turban wearing man in the advert not one person has said but seikhs don't celebrate christmas

Yes - ask someone who's complaining about the Muslim women why they aren't complaining about the Sikh man and I think:

they literally malfunction when presented with something that contradicts that belief

This might happen Grin

SchadenfreudePersonified · 13/11/2017 10:35

If Muslims don't take part then they don't integrate. If they're seen to be taking part then that's an outrage. Ok then

What Floozy said.

My Jewish friends have always celebrated Christmas (though not in a religious sense), and tbh, I would think that most of the people celebrating it aren't church-goers or even believers.

As a Christian, I see nothing wrong in ANYONE and EVERYONE celebrating an occasion of love, peace and goodwill to ALL men (and women and children).

SnugglySnerd · 13/11/2017 10:36

I live in Birmingham. A lot of Indian/Bangladeshi restaurants open on Xmas day with a set menu and have decorations up etc.
A close Muslim friend is always the first with her tree up and cards sent! She's usually the one arranging a yet together to exchange gifts too.
Daily Mail is being ridiculous as usual!

sagamartha · 13/11/2017 10:38

Daily Mail is being ridiculous as usual

TBF - I think it's Daily Mail READERS this time, not the Daily Mail itself.

HateSummer · 13/11/2017 10:38

There was an Amazon advert last year or year before about the Muslim imam and the Christian priest both giving each other some knee pads for Christmas as they both kneel to God..the same God. That was quite a thought provoking ad. Much better than the tesco one.

ConferencePear · 13/11/2017 10:39

I just don't believe any real practising Christians complained.

londonlookout · 13/11/2017 10:39

They are outraged because the "Share if you want the nativity play to continue because OTHERS want it banned" meme will have no target audience.

Redhead17 · 13/11/2017 10:41

People just use it as an excuse to be racist and it’s all Tesco’s fault.

Just celebrate what you want who cares.

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MyBeautifulMohawk · 13/11/2017 10:44

HateSummer except that a lot of people who do Christmas don't kneel to pray to any God. Me included.

I love all the mythology around Christmas, the ritual and the celebrations, but I'm not a Christian.

I see nothing wrong in ANYONE and EVERYONE celebrating an occasion of love, peace and goodwill to ALL men (and women and children). Exactly!

Mulberry72 · 13/11/2017 10:44

Some people will find anything to be offended about! Christmas for me is the more the merrier!

Kualabear · 13/11/2017 10:56

Make them eat sprouts, then we'll see if they 'really like Christmas'😀

HateSummer · 13/11/2017 11:01

Mybeautiful I was talking about the advert, in which both the imam and priest knelt to the same God. Just because you don’t believe in God, there are still many other people who do. There’s plenty of people at the church near us for midnight mass and other Christian celebrations. —even though Christmas is just a pagan celebration and the Romans changed it to Jesus’ birthday, but yeah!—

OnionShite · 13/11/2017 11:02

I'm told that this hasn't gone down any better amongst the less progressive Muslims than it has amongst the DM types. I suppose they are the cultural equivalents of each other, in some ways.

Anyway, in reality, lots of Muslims do celebrate Christmas in some way. Whether their co-religionists, DM readers or anyone else think they should or not. The Muslim population of the UK also includes a higher percentage of children than the national average. Thus, this is simply sound commercial sense. Enough of them do it and spend enough money doing it that retailers would be wise to target them. I expect there's also a need for things like specifically halal Christmas themed confectionery- so again, it makes sense to fill that gap.

NaughtToThreeSadOnions · 13/11/2017 11:07

They were imploding because Naydia from the bake off was giving out cooking/family tips on how to stay organised over Christmas. In other words things that if they came from good old British chefs like nigella or Sophie Dahl (who's grandfather was well Norwegian but I guess we all forget that because of who he was) would have been hailed as wonderful

It's the way they seem to think Muslim is a bad word and they have to spell it out m u s l i m. The comments were disgusting. Things like she shouldn't celebrate it. We don't need tips from her Muslim family.

Rebeccaslicker · 13/11/2017 11:11

It's stupid for many reasons. Anyone can exchange Christmas presents and objecting to the advert is bonkers.

On a purely practical note (I haven't seen the advert), how do people know they are Muslim anyway? Are there no brown christians? Do christians from other parts of the world not wear headscarves?!

Insane!

badtime · 13/11/2017 11:11

Naught, you're right about Nigella, who did a Christmas book. No-one seemed to have a problem with this, even though she is an atheist with a Jewish background.

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