To ask for tangible benefits of Brexit?

[RiskIt4Biscuit]

Some politicians are saying that we're all brexiteers now.

But I can't actually think of any tangible benefits of Brexit, and I think as a brexiteer, I should be able to list at least 3.

So how is Brexit going to make our lives better?

There is a good side to Brexit, well only one. UKIP MEPs including Paul Nuttall, Godfrey Bloom and Nigel Farage losing their MEPs salary.

Oh, so many. But to lust three:

1. The ability to enter trade deals without needing all the other member states to agree (which takes so long it may as well not happen at all).
2. The ability to control migration to ensure that the right number and quality of migrants e yet the uk.
3. Parliamentary Sovereignty unencumbered by EU law (eventually) and the autonomy and authority of the domestic courts that will no pngee be subservient to European courts (essentially we can make laws that benefit the UK and enforce them accordingly).

@comingup trumps we would have to pay that either way so how is that relevant?

The value of the £ has fallen against the €. Which means it's cheaper to make stuff here again. Which also means we also get to sell stuff instead of just importing everything.

It should also mean we will start to be less reliant on bringing food in and instead of having land set aside under stupid eu rules it will make economic sense for the UK to start producing its own food again. Which will increase food security AND help the environment by reducing the many food miles.

It might mean we eat more seasonally and less meat but I don't see that as a bad thing.

I am also hopeful that equine welfare improves AND riding schools make a come back. Lots of farmers locally with set aside land rent it out to horse owners for less per week than what it costs for a riding lesson. It means lots of people who should definitely stuck to riding lessons own ponies. And riding schools go out of business.

Then the new owners don't have the time, money or knowledge to care for Dobbin and the poor bugger ends up crippled and either obese or emaciated.

Ttbb
The difference is we get an awful lot for our money now due to our position in the trading block. What we pay on the way out is lost money. We can currently control immigration into the UK, true we have freedom of movement but European migration is only a problem when we allow it to be by failing to take action against abusive employment practices. The oportunities and benefits of the EU include technical standardisation, academic networks, free trade, grants for areas in need of development and support of a large economic block with a common purpose. The uk has none of those things on its own.

Yes, but you're whining about democracy

No...(a) democracy doesn't begin and end at the polling station (b) there are all manner of facets of Brexit that people are in the dark about; it's not whining to want clarification.

But still. We get our country back. Yay!

One tangible benefit is that it should bury the Conservative party. Not necessarily immediately but certainly over the next decade. This is their 1911 liberal party moment.

It's the end for them and they know it, which is why they are fighting like rats in a sack and taking the country down with them.

It will be a shit show, but everyone will blame the tories and they'll be out of power for years. That's a win.

Also I've heard that we'll be able to export loads of jam, or something..

I suppose one tangible benefit is it makes it easier to spot those who are openly racist and I can avoid having any personal/professional dealings with them

TonTonMacout
Has hit the nail on the head.
I must admit I have been very scared about Brexit. However, I just can't see the EU lasting.
I did not want to be part of a United States of Europe.
I don't see why we should have to prop up the economy of Greece as they have created a lot of their problems by corruption and tax avoidance.

We become a tax haven and all the Tory millionaires and billionaires can bank without having to leave the UK. How convenient for them.

1. The ability to enter trade deals without needing all the other member states to agree (which takes so long it may as well not happen at all).
By walking out of 45 free trade deals and the worlds lergest free trade area?
2. The ability to control migration to ensure that the right number and quality of migrants e yet the uk.
The UK will take just as many migrants as it ever has - skilled and unskilled, but they will be brown not white
3. Parliamentary Sovereignty unencumbered by EU law (eventually) and the autonomy and authority of the domestic courts that will no pngee be subservient to European courts (essentially we can make laws that benefit the UK and enforce them accordingly).
Such as ? Which laws has the EU stopped the UK being able to pass ?

And I think it's really disgusting to be branded a racist for voting for Brexit.
I have seen a lot of people in the building industry lose their livelihoods because of cheap labour from European countries

No a lot of people in the building industry lost their jobs due to the UK not stopping abusive employment practices, not EU labour!

But we didn’t have to have any EU laws we didn’t want
Sorry that's just nonsense, DC tried to change our laws, the EU said NO.

The TRUE cost of EU membership - almost £1BILLION a WEEK

Reason 1: We will stop being ruled by the President of the European Council Donald Tusk.
Reason 2: We will stop being ruled by the President of the European Commission Jean-Claude Juncker.
Reason 3: We will stop being ruled by the President of the European Parliament and the President of the Council of the European Union and ....I can go on as there are more EU presidents.

More riding schools

^ absolute winner for the worst hopeful tangible succes of Brext 😂

Still nobody addresses the many Brits living in the EU always talk about Eu citizens living in the UK as a British citizen married to a EU citizen, living in another European country I am worried, I also still own a house in the UK, we couldn't sell because of the economy but leavers give a flying fuck about British citizens abroad especially ones married to other EU citizens.

And I think it's really disgusting to be branded a racist for voting for Brexit

Who said that? I said it makes it easier to spot those who are openly racist. My local rag is absolutely abhorrent with people crowing about "closing the boarders (sic)" and "send them home if they don't like it". There's been a theft reported today. 23 comments on the FB site suggesting they "look Eastern European" and "cant wait till we can chuck them out".

twitter.com/finance_ll/status/908256479932829696?lang=en

Scrubsy, you do realize the government could actually do something about that if they wanted to?

Julie
Bob Lyddon appears to write lots and lots about Brexit, but only the Express seems to ever publish his claims.
Saying that without the EU, Google and Apple would suddenly pay billions of tax in the UK as he does in that article you linked is just la la land.

And as for the EU presidents
Which bits of EU legislation do you want gone?

• the Employment protections ?
• the Environmental protections ?
• the food safety protections ?

please list which areas you look forward to losing

We are in the building trade.

A lot of tradesmen absolutely lost their livelihoods because of the influx of cheap eu labour. You can't pay UK mortgage/rent/cost of living on £50 a day when it costs you £20 a day to get to work. But you can rent a room with 5 other blokes, work 7 days a week and with the exchange rate still send a decent amount of money back home to pay an eastern European rent and cost of living.

While some ganger no doubt makes a fortune in a few years and probably doesn't pay VAT/CIS tax too. And the standard of work is shocking. Including safety stuff life fireproofing.

Is it the fault of the individual blokes just trying to earn a living and supporting their families? No. Is it caused by uncontrolled immigration caused by being a member of the EU.

So another positive is that because the value of the £ is falling against the € it's not quite as profitable to be here in the UK.

I wonder how French and German trades will feel if their building trade gets an influx of gangers with limited knowledge but cheap as chips? It will go down like a shit sandwich at a funeral.

No. Is it caused by uncontrolled immigration caused by being a member of the EU.
No.
Actually it is caused by the incredibly lax UK employment law that allows sites to hire barely licenced subbie labour.

Other EU countries do not have opt outs on the Employments Rights directive and to hire people there they have to be proper employees with proper pension, holiday and sick pay rights.

But UK bosses Tories did not want anything to impact on their profits
so the UK has CIS
the UK has zero hours contracts
the UK has the gig economy
all things that other EU countries do not permit
but which will get worse once breaching EU directives no longer constrains bossees like Rees-Mogg