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Sister using pronoun they...

318 replies

Merida83 · 05/11/2017 18:33

To describe my 7 week old dd!
AIBU to be pissed off and to insist she refers to my DD by female only pronouns.

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whatabreakthrough · 05/11/2017 19:25

Don't pander to her bullshit.
Sorry, make that
They bullshit,
or is that them bullshit? wtf.

Itsanicehotel · 05/11/2017 19:25

I’m all for not sticking boys and girls into blue and pink boxes and stereotyping them in any way but this is ridiculous.

The more DSis is hellbent on referring to your DD as ‘they’, the more I think I’d totally ignore it. It’s like she wants you to react somehow - to get her point or to have words about it and so I’d do the opposite and not react in any way whatsoever.

whatabreakthrough · 05/11/2017 19:28

Even though I can't stand the colour pink I advise you, the next time she visits, to dress your baby girl in head to toe, disgusting barbie/bubblegum pink, purely to piss her off. Grin
Find the most lurid pink you can, don't forget a giant pink glittery bow on her head as well.

I think your silly SIL will faint or spontaneously combust at the sight.

CauliflowerSqueeze · 05/11/2017 19:29

Tell her your daughter spoke to you last night to say she wants to be called “she” and that she finds it offensive that her aunt won’t accept that.

This should make sense to her utterly bonkers mindset.

LoniceraJaponica · 05/11/2017 19:30

How do people like your sister deal with foreign languages where every object is either masculine or feminine (in French) or masculine, feminine or neutral (in German)?

Interestingly, French for vagina is masculine. French for baby is also masculine, even if it is a girl. German for ovary is masculine, baby is neutral.

Wineandworkout · 05/11/2017 19:31

There is some alarming transphobia on this thread ...

I think your sis should use 'she' if you ask her to do so. I can see how this gets on your nerves, but at the same time, your sis is trying to be sensitive to your baby's future choices - there are worse ways to be an annoying relative.

CauliflowerSqueeze · 05/11/2017 19:32

Every time from now on she says “they”, make a big deal of putting your ear down to your baby’s mouth and saying “yes darling I will pass that on.... yes.... yes I know you like to be called “she”... I don’t know why she keeps doing it....don’t say that darling it’s rude....yes I’ll remind her again”

Then give a huge shrug and tell her that your daughter is getting really pissed off with it now. Wink

wowimamazing · 05/11/2017 19:33

‘It’ is perfectly acceptable for babies. It’s largely a thing until it gets a bit older anyway

Fromage · 05/11/2017 19:34

Does your dd prefer formula or breast milk? How does she feel about each of her toys? Which are her favourite songs to be sung?

Oh, she can't tell you yet?

Better just give her water, no toys and not sing to her, until she can express herself then, eh?

Your sister is a fuckwit. Thank the God or Goddess or ungendered deity of your choosing, that you and thus your dd didn't inherit the sanctimonious twat gene.

Iamagreyhoundhearmeroar · 05/11/2017 19:34

There is no transphobia on the thread, wine. Give over.

Merida83 · 05/11/2017 19:34

Whata - the utterly rediculous thing is Dsis bought dd multiple pink gender stereitypical outfits 😂

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whatabreakthrough · 05/11/2017 19:34

There is some alarming transphobia on this thread ...

Absolute rubbish.

whatabreakthrough · 05/11/2017 19:35

Stop trying to stir, wine

Ooohlalalala · 05/11/2017 19:36

What's the problem? She's your sister. You love her. She's going through a silly phase, which we all do from time to time. Laugh it off and let her work it out of her system. It's doing you no harm, nor your daughter.

hotmilkandcrunchynuts · 05/11/2017 19:36

he believes that gender is a social construct and as such does not wish to assign dd a gender, until she herself does so

Tell your stupid sister that you're not assigning a gender, just acknowledging her biological sex, which is female.

Also tell her how offensive and "othering" it is to refuse to refer to your child as what they are.

MsGameandWatching · 05/11/2017 19:36

There is some alarming transphobia on this thread ...

And there it is, I knew that was coming.

Not there isn't. It's that's kind of nonsense that's making the whole gender debate so heightened and full of tension.

As with ALL decisions for minors, the parents make them until such a time as they he chose is old enough to make up their own mind. This baby's sex is female and therefore is she and her!

Fromage · 05/11/2017 19:37

‘It’ is perfectly acceptable for babies. It’s largely a thing until it gets a bit older anyway

Blimey wowimamazing, at what age did your babies' genitalia pop out from their smootharound arses?!

And 'a thing'........omfg.

hotmilkandcrunchynuts · 05/11/2017 19:37

‘It’ is perfectly acceptable for babies. It’s largely a thing until it gets a bit older anyway

"It" isn't. It's a person right from the start Hmm

Merida83 · 05/11/2017 19:37

fromage 😂 thank you

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DayManChampionOfTheSun · 05/11/2017 19:39

There is some alarming transphobia on this thread

Please can you quote the transphobia posts?

ALittleBitOfButter · 05/11/2017 19:40

Tell her you'll be bringing your DD up as a gender critical feminist aka TERF.

Iamagreyhoundhearmeroar · 05/11/2017 19:41

There is quite an alarming amount of bollocks on this thread.

Atthebottomofthegarden · 05/11/2017 19:41

You can't possibly go NC. You need to see what she buys your DD for birthday and Christmas gifts for the next few years, it could be hilarious...

Can't believe she bought pink outfits though! Could be a starting point in a conversation? As in "thank you for the outfits, but I'm a bit confused..."

VladmirsPoutine · 05/11/2017 19:42

Would anyone here consider themselves a TERF? Just out of curiosity...

DingleBerries · 05/11/2017 19:44

Gender is very much a social construct.

I can totally understand this bothering you OP.
I’m not sure this would bother me though, I think I’d be intrigued by her opinion on gender and would probably have great debates and discussions with her whether we agreed with one another or not. That’s right up my street.

On the other hand, I don’t have a newborn baby and that natural ‘defence and protection’ that comes with it when hey are brand new. So perhaps I would feel like you in your position OP.

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