Sister using pronoun they...

[Merida83]

To describe my 7 week old dd!
AIBU to be pissed off and to insist she refers to my DD by female only pronouns.

The world has gone FUCKING mad

I didn't insult you. I didn't insult anybody. I said MN is quite transphobic. How do you interpret that as an insult directed at you and everyone else?

You're not that stupid. What do you think MN IS if it is not us, the posters? MN is transphobic means you, the people posting on MN, are transphobic.

Stop now, you're embarassing yourself with the denials. You said it, so either own it or apologise.

peng

No, it doesn't. It means I have noticed a significant amount of transphobia on MN.

You still stand by that assertion?

You've noticed a significant amount but can't give a single example? And you think MN is something other than the people who post?

You're a troll.

transactivists have very successfully silenced all debate

I suppose we ought to be grateful they aren't beating us up for having an opinion.

when you think about it, nothing has really changed in history.
Women are still being silenced, whether by use of words (or physical force) in order to shut us down and stop us having an opinion.

@ringle thank you

@Pengggwn I'd advise you to really read what @Datun has to say. I'm a parent of a trans kid and Datun is a brilliant advocate for women's spaces and rights and we've reached a point where we can reconcile our own experiences and reach a middle ground. I really respect her opinions and I'd urge you to do the same.

I'm not a troll. I just don't like people trying to push me around

But you do enjoy throwing around serious accusations with no way to back them up?
Gotcha.

Oh dear god !

That’s a very nice thing to say Floellabumbags. Thank you!

It’s true, you and I have had conversations, coming at this from different angles. I have nothing but compassion and sympathy for you in your situation and you understand my political position.

Just because we have slightly different skin in the game, doesn’t mean that we can’t agree.

I find it amazing that people can throw opinions out there but then refuse to justify or debate them. What's the bloody point then?! Otherwise we are like toddlers, all talking at each other because they are too self-centred to realise that discussion is a collective endeavour. Surely the point of a discussion board is...discussion. If soapbox oratory is more your thing, mumsnet is the wrong place for you.

What's the bloody point then?!

You assume they're on the thread to debate. Clearly that's not why they're posting.

Not every word spoken has to be endlessly justified, picked over or proven. It is a choice to do this or not to do it

No, but when you make wide ranging and offensive accusations you better be able to back that up.
Which you can't. What is that, about 20 posts about how you don't have to justify yourself? Just one could have negated the need.

Time to dress your daughter in a pink flowery dress, with pink tights and a bib that says 'mummys little princess' just to bug her I think

OP, I agree with pp who says this is exactly the same as if sister had opinions about child's name, clothing (nappy type, feeding method, sleep training, schooling options, etc etc ad nauseam).

By 2018/9, there will be a new thing for relations to get controlling about.

No, fair point. People can use it as a soapbox if they like. Bit pointless, but it's a free country. Equally, though, don't get all shirty when people pick you up on controversial comments.

Not sure why you'd report your comments, nobody has even remotely suggested that you are breaking talk guidelines. But if you want to throw your toys out of the pram, feel free.

I am not dismissing her opinions, just her right to demand that I expand on what I have said, etc.

"I can any accusation I like and not bother to justify it"

Some of you are COWS

And you know why

I am not dismissing her opinions, just her right to demand that I expand on what I have said, etc.

Not sure I was demanding exactly. More trying to help you extricate yourself from a situation that I think you got into unwittingly.