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Sister using pronoun they...

318 replies

Merida83 · 05/11/2017 18:33

To describe my 7 week old dd!
AIBU to be pissed off and to insist she refers to my DD by female only pronouns.

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StefMay · 05/11/2017 18:54

Extremism comes in many forms...

ChardonnaysPrettySister · 05/11/2017 18:54

How does she want to be addressed herself?

Is she a she?

FrancisCrawford · 05/11/2017 18:56

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differenteverytime · 05/11/2017 19:04

This does happen. I know two people who use 'they' by default for babies. They are both trans guys and the idea is that "when the baby grows up, they will tell you what gender they are". When the brother of one of them had a baby girl, they started calling her 'they', and used a gender-neutral alternative to 'niece' for her relationship to them. But the brother asked them to use 'she' and 'niece', so now they do that instead, as he's the parent and that's what he wants. OP, I'd have hoped your sister would do the same.

Pronouns refer to sex, not gender, so I wouldn't do that with a child. But I do use the preferred pronouns of trans adults as a courtesy.

JamPasty · 05/11/2017 19:06

Tell her that you'll be teaching your daughter that women can do everything that men can do, and that there is nothing wrong with being female and it doesn't mean your daughter has to conform to gender stereotypes, and that if your sister thinks a bloody pronoun is more important than the above then she (sister) can stick her pronouns somewhere unmentionable.

God this sort of thing makes me cross! We should be teaching girls that being a woman is just as good as being a man, not that they have to try to be the opposite sex if they want to do certain things, ffs.

CoolCarrie · 05/11/2017 19:06

Ignore her, she is clearly stirring for reactions

WiseUpJanetWeiss · 05/11/2017 19:07

“They” is plural, so how does this work? Does your sister say “Does they want feeding” or “Do they want feeding?” Bizarre.

Mamabear4180 · 05/11/2017 19:08

ffs that's ridiculous! yanbu op but I'd rise above it if I were you, perhaps give your sister a bit of a wide berth while you're full of hormones in case you punch her in the face

Bambamber · 05/11/2017 19:10

Correct her everytime she says it. If your daughter choses when she is older she doesn't want to be referred to as 'she' that will be her choice. But that is not your sisters decision to make.

Judashascomeintosomemoney · 05/11/2017 19:11

you can’t insist Er, yes you can. If someone called me a cis-woman , or my DD ‘they’ instead of ‘she’ I’d consider us to have been deliberately mis-gendered. And, ya know, that’s not on.

expatinscotland · 05/11/2017 19:11

I'd tell her to grow the fuck up and cut her a wide berth.

Pengggwn · 05/11/2017 19:13

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DayManChampionOfTheSun · 05/11/2017 19:13

Judashascomeintosomemoney

What is a CIS-woman? Confused

OP

YADNBU

LoniceraJaponica · 05/11/2017 19:16

"Genders IS a social construct, but sex is not, and "she" is the pronoun associated with the female sex."

This ^^

"Your sister is a sanctimonious baggage who needs remedial grammar lessons"

Grin
Merida83 · 05/11/2017 19:16

Thank you all. Glad to know I'm not just overly sensitive and hormonal.

To the poster who asked - my sister is referee to as she. But her feeling is that is acceptable as its her choosing

(also its what she's been referred to since birth).

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Iamagreyhoundhearmeroar · 05/11/2017 19:16

What ideological grounds? She sounds a bit nuts.

glenthebattleostrich · 05/11/2017 19:18

Agree gender is a social construct but sex is a biological fact. And as your daughter is female she is a she.

You could start refering to your sister as arsehole as that is clearly what she identifies as.

Merida83 · 05/11/2017 19:18

Pen - this is exactly how I feel just now. And have issued said final warning.

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MothQuandary · 05/11/2017 19:20

Your sister is weird, but having a weird aunt who calls her niece “they” won’t affect your DD, so I’d just try to ignore it. Your sister will probably get bored anyway, if you don’t rise to the bait.

HopefullyAnonymous · 05/11/2017 19:21

What is the gender neutral version of niece?!

BatteredBreadedOrSouthernFried · 05/11/2017 19:21

What is a CIS-woman? confused

It’s nothing at all. It’s what trans activists like to call women.

museumum · 05/11/2017 19:23

I that bi it’s nuts to use they for a female Child (their sex not gender) but it genuinely wouldn’t bother me either. I’d just laugh. Honestly. By the time your daughters old enough to understand (my 4yr old still doesn’t give a stuff whose a he or a she) your sister will be over this fad.

DayManChampionOfTheSun · 05/11/2017 19:23

BatteredBreadedOrSouthernFried

Thank you, so bizarre!

whatabreakthrough · 05/11/2017 19:24

How does that work exactly.

''Does she need feeding'' is replaced with ''Do they need feeding?''

Sounds bloody ridiculous.

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