To think it's inconsiderate to text someone at half 5 in the morning

[Jesstheblackandwhitecat]

Or am I being unreasonable? Not an emergency, a colleague asking me something.

Brats I'm only speculating, given there seems to be a vast number of people who don't need a landline (which are very good for taking emergency calls) but instead need other people to know exactly when it would/wouldn't be convenient for them to receive texts, which in my book, by their very nature of not being 100% instantaneous, aren't an 'immediate response' method of communication.

Are group A (or was it B?) people assuming that absolutely everyone has a smart phone (so has all the different dnd doo dahs)? Or do they think that if you have a brick that either switches sound on or off (no doo dahs) then that's just the price those people have to pay?

I always switch landline sound off by the way - from the days of prank calls in the middle of the night. Do they still happen?

Because if you can’t understand that things might be convenient for YOU at a time when most people are sleeping, but not for your recipient, then either you’re a dick or an idiot.
Actually think a person comes across as a dick if they cant see that for some people this isn't a problem.
It is for you, it isnt for me.
Why are you so insulting to people who dont agree withyou?

I'm in the 35 - 55 group and know how to use all the features of my phone, but as smart phones are still relatively new technology - i know several people who don't have one yet, I assume that not everyone uses their phone in the same way as me. I therefore make use of drafts and notes, so that I can prepare messages but not send them at what I would think are unsociable hours.

People 35-55 can't work their phone? Im in that age group and i can work my phone, even my mother, who is almost 60 can.

I assume that as you can purchase a smart phone for £45 in full or £7.50 per month inc minutes etc that they would have a smart phone if they wanted one and would otherwise take responsibility for whether or not they wished to receive calls and texts by switching the phone on and off.

People 35-55 can't work their phone

People in that age group invented the bloody phones!

A friend of mine used to text at that time in the morning, that’s when her kids got up and if she thought of something that’s when she sent the texts. I read them when I woke up and replied. Simple.

I was only speculating ...

So what age group is it who are most likely to
a) not have a landline
AND
either
b1) have a phone without features to turn off sound of texts
or
b2) don't know how to operate it

Any person in any age group, since its not an age thing

I was only speculating ...
So what age group is it who are most likely to
a) not have a landline
AND
either
b1) have a phone without features to turn off sound of texts
or
b2) don't know how to operate it

How about any person of any age?

So should we all be keeping a spreadsheet of who is contactable by which method at what time???!
It’s ridiculous. If you don’t want to be disturbed by a completely passive method of communication then it is up to you to ensure that.
Whatever next: AIBU to not want the post to come at 8am because the sound of the letterbox clattering wakes me up.

FFS learn how to use the technology, people. It’s there for a reason!

It is kind of...if I were fast asleep I wouldn't wake up anyway.

I used to have a colleague who would phone me any time of the night, seemingly without realisation:)

I'd pick up the phone at 2am/4am/whatever (if awake) and say 'hello...?' And wait for some sort of confirmation it wasn't a right time.

Actually I completely don't mind erratic phone calls as I'm a sound sleeper when I get there. I'm an insomniac but a log whilst asleep.

"So should we all be keeping a spreadsheet of who is contactable by which method at what time???! "

It's a fair bet though that many people are still asleep at 5.30am. So why not save the draft and send it at 8am, when it is more likely that they're awake? - that's what I don't understand. (No personal axe to grind as I now do the doo dahs and don't get disturbed. After a couple of spectacularly non-urgent texts sent to me at, you've guessed it, 5.30am)

So kali and hot you think there is no correlation at all between age and this topic? I am not saying all people, I am hypothesising a link.

You may be right, though personally I suspect not. First of all I bet landline ownership and expectation of use of that in emergencies is higher amongst older people, since this age group grew up without mobile phones at all.

...because at 8am they're busy commuting to work, doing the school rush stuff etc?

Rather than a spreadsheet why not ask people when you're adding them to your phone what their acceptable contact hours are

So Jane Smith - no text before 7am, OK to use landline after 11am
John Smith - doesn't know how to use his phone - 9-5 contact only
Sue Smith - likes to go to bed at 9pm, gets up at 5am

etc

Problem solved

true teen, but I would prefer to be texted as I'm commuting than woken up! (but I am particularly averse to being woken up, I admit!)

I think people have given some quite good explanations why 'dnd with vips able to get through' does not work for them - emergency services, hospitals etc will be blocked.

Which part of "you can allow all CALLS" are you enable to understand?

Quite apart from which most DND have an override for any calls made from the same number twice within a set period of time and you could include your voicemail in the list even if you didn't want to allow all calls.

Perversely, I'm really enjoying how much this thread is annoying me!!

Especially the "you are a dick" without any real argument or analysis types! Brilliant to see so many degrees of stupidity on display.

oklooking No I meant the sender might be busy at 8am which is why they might wish to send earlier when they get up before the baby wakes up or the long drive to work or whatever. That's back to how, when I rule the world, texts will be treated. Send at the senders convenience, receive at the receiver's convenience.

Ah! I see what you mean teen. Are any smart phones smart enough to do 'timer send'? - bizarrely, some very non-smart phones do, which would get over that problem. But I think that I've heard that smart phones don't - not sure why not. And it is true I have never heard of e-mail timer send (as opposed to text).

Especially the "you are a dick" without any real argument or analysis types! Brilliant to see so many degrees of stupidity on display.

Read some of your own posts back.

Particularly the ones calling other people ‘dicks’ when they don’t agree with you. And the ones with all the SHOUTING for those who, again, don’t agree with you.

I imagine you stood there, arms tightly folded, scowling and stamping your foot when I read your rants. But apparently it’s everyone else who’s a ‘dick’...

But apparently it’s everyone else who’s a ‘dick’...

Tee hee!!! Loving it!

Shouting is for the people unable apparently to read not for people who don't agree.

I posted ages ago that this is a two camps issue. The camps should just be friends with people in the same camp. That's it.

Gosh! I am really shocked by this thread. I view phone calls as instant/demanding communication, but texts, emails, DMs, PMs, etc all at the recipient's convenience.

I have no audible alerts on any devices and visible alerts only on one or two. Also have elderly relatives and two sons at uni. They all know the landline is best to rouse us, or email if they get voicemail.

TeenTimesTwo so its only teens and people in their 20's who are able to work their phones then?
Right, i'll just pack my iphones up now then