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Manafort Destiny? Trump continued

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PerkingFaintly · 30/10/2017 13:07

Where will the charges against Manafort lead? Whose shredders are overheating today? And most importantly, when will the Tweetstorm-from-the-loo start?

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cozietoesie · 08/11/2017 09:13

As far as I recall. the Twitter 280 experiment started a little while back and the test group did not include 45. I wonder if they were .......... prevailed upon to include him - or whether it was done in apology for screwing up with his account the other day? Wink

lionheart · 08/11/2017 09:19

It will provide twice as much .... >>insert diplomatic term

TheClaws · 08/11/2017 10:11

POLITICO‏Verified account @politico 7m7 minutes ago
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Trump: ‘Hundreds more’ would have died in Texas if gun laws were stricter
politi.co/2zEzaYx

TheClaws · 08/11/2017 10:22

Link to stupid Fox tweet as requested (ie. the one that explains how elections work, for idiots):

Fox News‏Verified account @FoxNews 6h6 hours ago
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.@ChrisStirewalt on VA & NJ governor races: I don't think the Republicans lost this race, I think the Democrats won it....The Democrats showed up in larger number than the Republicans.

OhYouBadBadKitten · 08/11/2017 10:30

It is so nice to read some happy news today.

TheClaws · 08/11/2017 10:34

Now, as for the strict gun control comment, I live in a country with strict gun control. These kinds of mass shootings are unheard of. We don’t live in fear of armed intruders. I’m happy walking down the street in the knowledge that the people next to me likely do not have concealed guns. Those that do have guns have them for a good reason and they are very carefully controlled.

Sometimes what is written in a Constitution has been formulated for a society that has long gone; it would be a sign of a society’s maturity to recognise it has moved away from those principles and propose new ones. But you know that won’t happen in the US.

Lweji · 08/11/2017 10:40

It looks like violent mental health patients and domestic violence perpetrators should be extreme vetted.
But it won't happen.

Lweji · 08/11/2017 12:44

If you want to do something about guns, you have the power to vote.

AcrossthePond55 · 08/11/2017 13:25

Such a happy day. I know these two races statistically don't mean a whole lot, but it does give me faith for next year that people who were apathetic (or smug) and didn't vote in 2016 will get out and vote in the mid-terms.

My dad always taught me that voting was our number one responsibility and our number one privilege as citizens and to never take it for granted. I always vote, just as he did. Even if it's to elect the local dog catcher.

OnTheDarkSideOfTheSpoon · 08/11/2017 13:50

Happy day indeed! Smile

And the investigation still continues and Trump associates slowly dig themselves deeper holes...

Talking Points Memo @TPM

Lewandowski: "My memory has been refreshed" on Carter Page’s email

talkingpointsmemo.com/muckraker/lewndowski-memory-refreshed-carter-page-email-moscow-trip?utm_content=buffer4eb40&utm_medium=social&utm_source=twitter.com&utm_campaign=buffer

Corey Lewandowski, the former campaign manager for President Donald Trump, said on Tuesday night that he now remembers receiving an email from Carter Page about a trip to Moscow despite claiming in March that he did not grant Page permission to take the trip.

Page told the House Intelligence Committee last week that he informed Lewandowski in an email about his plans to travel to Moscow in July 2016. Page said that Lewandowski approved of the trip as long as Page did not go as a representative of the Trump campaign.

Back in March, Lewandowski distanced himself from Page when the former campaign adviser first claimed that the Trump campaign had approved the Moscow trip. Lewandowski told Fox News in March that he had never met Page and told USA Today that he did not grant anyone permission to travel to Russia.

“I’m very clear about this,” he told USA Today. “I granted nobody permission to do that.”

He was less sure whether he emailed with Page, telling USA Today in March, “I can’t say unequivocally I’ve never responded to an email to somebody.”

Lewandowski changed his tune slightly on Tuesday night.

Fox News’ Martha MacCallum asked Lewandowski to “reconcile” Page’s testimony with his claims from March.

“There is no reconciliation necessary,” Lewandowski replied. “To the best of my recollection, I don’t know Carter Page. To the best of my knowledge, Carter Page never had a DonaldTrump.com email address, had no formal role in the campaign that I’m aware of, was never compensated by the campaign.”

He then appeared to say that he did allow Page to take the Moscow trip.

“And so when a low-level volunteer decides that they want to take a trip overseas and doesn’t report to me or work for the organization, what jurisdiction would I potentially have of telling him or her they can or could not travel overseas?” Lewandowski told MacCallum. “All I was clear about was, if you are going to travel, please do not pretend to be part of the campaign and say that you are part of the campaign.”

MacCallum asked Lewandowski to confirm that he does remember the email from Page. In response, Lewandowski said that his memory has just been “refreshed” but that he was too busy at the time to pay much attention to the email.

“Well, no — you have to remember, in the context of the campaign world – now, my memory has been refreshed — but to be clear, from what I understand and what I recall, that email was sent on June 19th of 2016, so about 18 months ago,” he said. “It also happened to be Father’s Day on a Sunday, and it also happened to be the day prior to me being terminated from the campaign, so with all due respect, there were many other things on my mind that day other than trying to understand why a volunteer was telling me he may or may not be traveling outside the country.”

MacCallum asked once more if Lewandowski remembered the email. In response he said that he did not remember the email “at the time” but now recalls seeing it.

“What I recall is now seeing that email has been brought back to my attention. I didn’t recall it at the time,” Lewandowski said.

OnTheDarkSideOfTheSpoon · 08/11/2017 14:02

Re: Murdoch. This looks like a document anyone could've have written and the person presenting this as true information is Hugh Grant (!) so apply as much salt as you see fit but:

Hugh Grant‏*@HackedOffHugh*

Anonymous evidence from former News Intl employee re Murdoch to the CMA. A spark in the fireworks box. Amazing.

Manafort Destiny? Trump continued
OnTheDarkSideOfTheSpoon · 08/11/2017 14:33

Kyle Griffin‏
@kylegriffin1

A N.J. Republican mocked the Women's March online.

32-year old Democrat Ashley Bennett was angered by the remark, challenged him in his re-election bid.

She won.

www.mcclatchydc.com/news/politics-government/national-politics/article183398866.html

mrsreynolds · 08/11/2017 14:41

RESIST
😁😁😁😁😁✊✊✊✊✊

PerkingFaintly · 08/11/2017 14:45

BTW, if Kursk's still around, I'd be really interested in hearing her take on Maine's vote to expand Medicare. I think she said she lives in Maine.

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SanFranBear · 08/11/2017 14:47

Those results are so life-affirming - people want change

OnTheDarkSideOfTheSpoon · 08/11/2017 15:19

Why the fuck does he insist on these stupid nicknames? There's a ridiculous video that accompanies this tweet but I'm afraid I can't tell you what's in it as I couldn't bear to watch more than the first 3 seconds.

Donald J. Trump‏*@realDonaldTrump*

NoKo has interpreted America's past restraint as weakness. This would be a fatal miscalculation. Do not underestimate us. AND DO NOT TRY US.

twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/928279728125108225

OnTheDarkSideOfTheSpoon · 08/11/2017 15:21

Effects of gerrymandering (I'm guessing the other 3 percent were independents but I don't know for sure)

Sam Stein@samstein
Dems, in the end, won 53% of VA House of Delegate votes to the GOP’s 44%. And still were only able to get a remarkable 50-50 split.

cozietoesie · 08/11/2017 16:06

Weaver’s statement is interesting.

Gillespie lost - then he was pulverised

CaveMum · 08/11/2017 16:15

This is great. A Republican campaigning against the "Bathroom Bill" has lost his seat to a Trans woman. This is what his sister had to say:

twitter.com/aarontheh/status/928097726050340864

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OnTheDarkSideOfTheSpoon · 08/11/2017 16:17

Matt Zapotosky@mattzap
Gag order imposed in Manafort-Gates case

Elizabeth de la Vega‏ @Delavegalaw
Wow. Judge's VERY BROAD gag order in Manafort/Gates case bars "all interested participants" including "potential witnesses," from making statements to media about the case.

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AcrossthePond55 · 08/11/2017 16:23

As long as 'potential witnesses' includes Scrotus and his Minions (with a capital M) I'm fine with that gag order, Pain.

OnTheDarkSideOfTheSpoon · 08/11/2017 16:24

cave that's brilliant. I love Danica's response to a question about Marshall. It's a pretty graceful way of delivering, what I believe some youth might call, an epic burn.

Pesach Lattin 🌠‏ @pacelattin

When asked about Bob Marshall, Danica Roem said “I don't attack my constituents. Bob is my constituent now.”

cozietoesie · 08/11/2017 16:25

Since when did 45 listen to ‘orders’, Across? Smile

lionheart · 08/11/2017 16:27

Thanks for that Lewandowski link Pain.

Love the way Bennett won. Smile

I was watching Sally Yates speak at Harvard and one of the things she said gave her hope was the number of women, especially younger women, who tell her they are running for the first time.

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