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Manafort Destiny? Trump continued

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PerkingFaintly · 30/10/2017 13:07

Where will the charges against Manafort lead? Whose shredders are overheating today? And most importantly, when will the Tweetstorm-from-the-loo start?

Previous thread:
www.mumsnet.com/Talk/am_i_being_unreasonable/3061258-FMOTUS-F-ing-Moron-of-the-United-States-Trump-thread-continued?pg=1

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OnTheDarkSideOfTheSpoon · 04/11/2017 07:00

Actually, it’s not just trump’s failing but it the GOs for enabling his behaviour because they are the mechanism to act as a brake against this sort of behaviour but have willing embraced it to accomplish their legislative goals (not that that’s working out as planned).

OnTheDarkSideOfTheSpoon · 04/11/2017 07:13

Evan Rosenfeld
@Evan_Rosenfeld
NEW: Carter Page met Russian govt officials during a 2016 Moscow trip, per testimony to congressional investigators

Trump Campaign Adviser Met With Russian Officials in 2016

<a class="break-all" href="https://mobile.nytimes.com/2017/11/03/us/politics/trump-campaign-page-russian.html?referer=t.co/t5qRgOIrGN?amp=1" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">mobile.nytimes.com/2017/11/03/us/politics/trump-campaign-page-russian.html?referer=t.co/t5qRgOIrGN?amp=1

WASHINGTON — Carter Page, a foreign policy adviser to the Trump presidential campaign, met Russian government officials during a July 2016 trip he took to Moscow, according to testimony he gave on Thursday to the House Intelligence Committee.

Shortly after the trip, Mr. Page sent an email to at least one Trump campaign aide describing insights he had after conversations with government officials, legislators and business executives during his time in Moscow, according to one person familiar with the contents of the message. The email was read aloud during the closed-door testimony.

The new details of the trip present a different picture than the account Mr. Page has given during numerous appearances in the news media in recent months and are yet another example of a Trump adviser meeting with Russians officials during the 2016 campaign. In multiple interviews with The New York Times, he had either denied meeting with any Russian government officials during the July 2016 visit or sidestepped the question, saying he met with “mostly scholars.”

Lauren Werner 🗽
@LaurenWern
This contradicts what he told us for the past few months.

FBI grilled him in March; if he lied to FBI like he lied to us, he's in trouble.

Jim Sciutto
@jimsciutto
Carter Page confirms to me he met Russian Dep PM Arkady Dvorkovich in Moscow in 2016, describes as “casual hello” as theyspoke at same event

Also from his interview with Jake Tapper:

Natasha Bertrand
@NatashaBertrand
Pretty sure Carter Page just admitted to Tapper that he has met with Mueller’s team.
“They’ve been very professional, they don’t leak”

Saffronwblue · 04/11/2017 07:27

11 day trip to Asia? How is he going to manage? He will have to rotate Ivanka in for him on about day 4.

Fekko · 04/11/2017 08:10

Nooo there will be a load of stunt Milanias shipped in to distract him with shiny things like milk bottle tops. I'm hoping they won't let him back into the US.

badbadhusky · 04/11/2017 08:13

What’re the US extradition policies of the countries he’s visiting?

Lweji · 04/11/2017 08:26

I don't think he'd want to visit Chinese or Thai prisons.
OTOH, there's always the Russian embassy. He could get stuck there for ages. That would be fun.

Meanwhile, a Portuguese Russian double agent is going on trial later this month.
It's thought he passed on key NATO Intel.

The original story:
observer.com/2016/05/natos-big-new-russian-spy-scandal/

PerkingFaintly · 04/11/2017 08:29

Ecuador has an embassy in Japan... Grin

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OnTheDarkSideOfTheSpoon · 04/11/2017 08:34

I don’t think he’s on the run just yet. He is meeting putin though, so maybe is in need of some helpful guidance?

Papadopoulos Repeatedly Represented Trump Campaign, Record Shows

www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/amp/papadopoulos-repeatedly-represented-trump-campaign-record-shows-n817421

WASHINGTON — The Trump administration has downplayed the role of foreign policy adviser George Papadopoulos during the 2016 presidential campaign. But the public record shows that Papadopoulos, who attempted to set up a meeting between Donald Trump and Russian President Vladimir Putin, was a more prominent figure than previously understood.

Papadopoulos was in Cleveland during the Republican National Convention where he was invited by the American Jewish Committee to speak on a panel about U.S. foreign policy, organizers said.

"Papadopolous was only one among the many contacts AJC established and maintained among advisers to both parties’ 2016 presidential candidates and in the two parties’ national committees," AJC spokesperson Ken Bandler said in a statement.

"Among the panelists in our 2016 Republican National Convention program — in a session titled 'Defining America's Role in Global Affairs' — was George Papadopolous, then a Trump campaign foreign policy adviser," the statement continued.

[...]
Papadopoulos’ public role for the Trump campaign continued. In late September, just six weeks before Election Day, he gave an interview as a Trump campaign official to the Russian Interfax News Agency, where he said that Trump will “restore the trust” between the U.S. and Russia.

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And he met with Israeli leaders during the inauguration in January as a foreign policy adviser for the newly-sworn in president. "We are looking forward to ushering in a new relationship with all of Israel, including the historic Judea and Samaria," Papadopoulos told the Jerusalem Post the following day.

Papadopoulos’ role in the campaign has come under scrutiny after he pled guilty on Monday for giving false statements to the FBI as part of a Grand Jury investigation into the Trump campaign and their ties to Russia.

OnTheDarkSideOfTheSpoon · 04/11/2017 08:41

This seems a bit dodgy

Michelle AveryWeston
@michellany
‼️👀 Kislayak met with officials at Kennesaw State University (which runs Georgia’s election system) in April 2016. (Source: KSU Magazine)

t.co/IiZPtpUvNL?amp=1

leah mcelrath 🗽
@leahmcelrath
WHY would the Russian ambassador meet with officials at a relatively unknown GA university?!

Well ...

This was such a shocking piece of information that I had to verify it.

(No offense, @michellany, and GREAT catch, btw.)

Russian Amb. to U.S. Sergey Kislyak met with Georgia state's Kennesaw State University in April 2016 – why?

stratcomm.kennesaw.edu/publications/magazines.php

KSU managed ALL 2016 ELECTIONS in Georgia.

KSU officials WIPED THE ELECTION SERVER of ALL RECORDS:

t.co/S17z6gHKbi?amp=1

[rest of thread mobile.twitter.com/leahmcelrath/status/926139884934483974 ]

Manafort Destiny? Trump continued
lionheart · 04/11/2017 09:02

I like this idea but I like the fact that Trump does himself no favours every time he speaks or writes, even more.

www.politico.com/story/2017/11/03/trump-justice-department-independence-244531

lionheart · 04/11/2017 09:10

I didn't notice that NATO case Lweji. It will be interesting to see how that worked.

PerkingFaintly · 04/11/2017 09:51

From lionheart's link:

Trump's push for inquiries challenges Justice Dept. independence
www.politico.com/story/2017/11/03/trump-justice-department-independence-244531

“The saddest thing is, because I am the president of the United States, I am not supposed to be involved with the Justice Department,” Trump told O’Connor. “I’m not supposed to be involved with the FBI. I’m not supposed to be doing the kind of things I would love to be doing and I am very frustrated by it.

He really had no idea that he'd be president, not king?

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TheClaws · 04/11/2017 10:33

The possibility was mentioned upthread of riots this weekend - or ‘civil war’ borne out of planned antifa protests being crashed by conservatives. I’ve just had a peek on Breitbart and their headline is “Antifa Rallies Planned in at Least 20 U.S. Cities — Won’t ‘Stop Until This Regime Driven from Power’”. The antifa in question here took out a full page ad in the NY Times a day ago advertising their rallies. Whether they can be termed true antifa, I don’t know, as they are funded by the Revolutionary Communist Party.

Anyway, hairy-handed Breitbarters plan on turning out in force, apparently.

badbadhusky · 04/11/2017 10:35

Probably heavily armed +/- burning torches.

TheNorthWestPawsage · 04/11/2017 12:18

I hope Prof. Mifsud is keeping away from open windows...

Solving the Mystery of the Maltese Professor
observer.com/2017/11/the-mystery-of-joseph-mifsud-george-papadopoulos-russian-contact/amp/

lionheart · 04/11/2017 12:42

Me too.

lionheart · 04/11/2017 12:43

Sally says.

Sally Yates‏Verified account @SallyQYates 14m14 minutes ago
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DOJ not a tool for POTUS to use to go after his enemies and protect his friends. Respect rule of law and DOJ professionals. This must stop.

lionheart · 04/11/2017 13:02

Asia visit.

www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-asia-41773310#

cozietoesie · 04/11/2017 13:13

Dubya speaks.

I don’t like him

OnTheDarkSideOfTheSpoon · 04/11/2017 13:46

DemWrite 🇺🇸🇵🇷
@DemWrite
A new EPA policy bumps scientists off key science advisory boards, replaced by industry reps & GOP partisans.

www.washingtonpost.com/amphtml/news/energy-environment/wp/2017/11/04/pruitts-new-science-advisers-add-more-industry-experts-conservatives-to-the-mix/

OnTheDarkSideOfTheSpoon · 04/11/2017 13:51

This is a good delve into SHS.

Sarah Huckabee Sanders Makes the Heart Grow Fonder

<a class="break-all" href="https://mobile.nytimes.com/2017/11/03/opinion/sunday/sarah-huckabee-sanders-kelly.html?smid=tw-share&referer=t.co/wt5F3Dgpbk?amp=1" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">mobile.nytimes.com/2017/11/03/opinion/sunday/sarah-huckabee-sanders-kelly.html?smid=tw-share&referer=t.co/wt5F3Dgpbk?amp=1

And you might like to know what spicey’s up to these days

The Secret Harvard Fellowship of Sean Spicer

www.thecrimson.com/article/2017/11/3/drabik-spicer/#.WfyCH4_AE5Y.twitter

OnTheDarkSideOfTheSpoon · 04/11/2017 14:07

Adam Parkhomenko
Adam Parkhomenko
@AdamParkhomenko
If you are just waking up, here’s what you missed overnight. Add a new event & twitter handle to the timeline for June 9, day of Trump Jr.

MD
@mikeydoubled
Replying to @UAtatey and @AdamParkhomenko
So I found some more interesting stuff; Twitter IDs are sequential. Guccifer2 def created June 9th. His language used to be set to RU too 🤔

Lauren Werner 🗽
Lauren Werner 🗽
@LaurenWern
Guccifer2.0 Twitter account was created on day of Trump Jr's 6/9/16 meeting w Russians. Guccifer2.0 started dumping hacked DNC docs on 6/15.

Manafort Destiny? Trump continued
OnTheDarkSideOfTheSpoon · 04/11/2017 15:59

Two days ago they said it was 60 million.

The Hill‏*@thehill*

Facebook estimates 200 million of its accounts are fake hill.cm/9aqxB0M

OnTheDarkSideOfTheSpoon · 04/11/2017 16:02

Darren Samuelsohn‏*@dsamuelsohn*
Trump attorney threatens formal challenges to Mueller/DOJ if Russia probe gets into old real-estate deals.

Mueller braces for challenges to his authority

The special counsel has won some early court victories in the Russia investigation, but with charges filed defense attorneys and others are lining up to rein in the probe.

www.politico.com/story/2017/11/04/mueller-russia-probe-challenges-244538

cozietoesie · 04/11/2017 16:32

Mr M will have been expecting this. Smile