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Aibu to think a 2 and 5 year old will be fine being vegan for one lunch?

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mauricesom · 27/10/2017 09:46

It's my birthday next week and I've booked somewhere nice that does a vegan high tea. I've invited my daughter (veggie) and her two sons 7 and 5.

I've booked us all for the vegan high tea but daughter says the children will need ham and cheese else they won't eat it. As I'm paying for it I don't really want to buy things I'm ethically apposed to.

Aibu to think they will be fine with hummus and carrot sandwiches for one meal? They both eat food like that at my house without any issues.

OP posts:
PumpkinSquash · 28/10/2017 14:29

I’m also bemused at the lack of understanding around the nature of afternoon tea. Unless I’ve been doing it wrong thinking it’s a set menu thing. Next time I go for one I’m going to order steak. BECAUSE NO ONE TELLS ME WHAT I CAN AND CAN’T ORDER MOTHER FUCKAAAAS!!!

Grin Grin

pumpkin quick, put some meat on those crackers before people realise it's vegan

Sirzy · 28/10/2017 14:30

I am the mum of a “fussy” eater but I still wouldn’t see a problem with a relative booking an afternoon tea - vegan or not - knowing ds probably wouldn’t eat more than a mouthful, I would probably say don’t bother paying for extra for him but I wouldn’t dictate what birthday “treat” someone else could have

CorbynsBumFlannel · 28/10/2017 14:50

Well maybe I'm the only person who likes to choose something I fancy when I eat out. Not just get ordered something that I can eat.

Sirzy · 28/10/2017 14:51

Then don’t agree to go for an afternoon tea as that’s not how it works

BertrandRussell · 28/10/2017 14:52

Have you ever been out for afternoon tea? It's quite usual to be given a set tea with very little choice.

CorbynsBumFlannel · 28/10/2017 14:58

I've actually been to afternoon tea with a vegetarian relative and my children. No idea if it is the same as 'high tea' but it was the sandwiches and cakes and things that most were suggesting. They generally come for 2 ime so nothing wrong with the op and the mum having vegan and the kids having something they would like. I can't imagine a cafe suggesting that groups of 4 must all eat vegan.
If someone offered to buy me food on the condition they chose it I probably would decline as I'd find it odd and I'm not the kind of person who eats anything so a lot would be wasted.

CorbynsBumFlannel · 28/10/2017 15:00

And obviously the children COULD have cheese and ham as the op has said she is against that ethically not that it isn't offered.

Plainlycrackers · 28/10/2017 15:03

Gaaahhh! Not sure whirly OP is making everyone eat the same as them when other options are available but at the same time my DC, who has always eaten meat etc, would only eat hummus sandwiches when 5 and why do people default to cheese and ham as sandwiches for kids they are sooooo dull I would have a silent strop if I was offered those quite frankly! All in all the world is unreasonable I’m sure the kids will survive a cegan high tea providing it involves some gore of cake and they can have a ham & cheese toastie (the only acceptable form of ham flipping sandwich in my world) afterwards at Home! It is Saturday afternoon I shouldn’t be on numbers at all right now and I am living up to my moniker! PS my DC used to get very stressed about eating out at primary school age due to a fear for being fobbed off with kids food... gahhhhh! They cost me a fortune but at least they always ate!

C8H10N4O2 · 28/10/2017 15:04

And obviously the children COULD have cheese and ham as the op has said she is against that ethically not that it isn't offered.

The OP didn't specify if the option was available at the chosen venue or if the meat/cheese would require a different one. I interpreted it as a vegan venue but we don't actually know.

And either way, its not going to kill them to pig out on the cakes and scones instead so that the OP can be prioritised on her birthday. Who knows, whilst with DGM they might be happy to eat DGM food out, as they do at her house.

Plainlycrackers · 28/10/2017 15:05

Jeepers how many typos?!!?! Not meant to be on mumsnet! And a gore of cake? Actually sounds more exciting than form of cake... Cake forever!!!

CorbynsBumFlannel · 28/10/2017 15:11

Well in that case surely the op would have said it wasn't available not that she doesn't agree with it? Also you wouldn't order a 'vegan high tea' in a vegan restaurant. You'd order a high tea.
It doesn't look as if we'll be getting any definite answers on those questions though as the op has disappeared.

malificent7 · 28/10/2017 15:17

Vegan sandwiches- marmite, falafels, peanut butter, roast veg and pickle....no big deal

malificent7 · 28/10/2017 15:18

Not all in the same sandwich though!

ArcheryAnnie · 28/10/2017 15:36

It's the OP's birthday, and the OP has chosen somewhere where she would like to eat. This is perfectly reasonable. I think if the 7 year old and 5 year old really, genuinely don't want the sandwiches, they will be more than happy to pig out on cake.

And all those saying "I don't like other people choosing for me what we eat" - well, this is what happens when you are invited to someone's house, isn't it? It's no biggie.

I think it's a bit precious for guests - even very close family guests - to insist that a birthday meal be all about their wants rather than the birthday person's wants, especially when the birthday person is paying.

SpinnerDryer · 28/10/2017 15:42

I think YABU.

They wouldnt make you eat a rib eye if they invited you out?

RhiannonOHara · 28/10/2017 15:52

I think it's a bit precious for guests - even very close family guests - to insist that a birthday meal be all about their wants rather than the birthday person's wants, especially when the birthday person is paying.

Exactly this. Voice of reason on a fecking weird thread.

As opposed to They wouldnt make you eat a rib eye if they invited you out? This isn't a meaningful parallel; someone who isn't vegan can nonetheless eat a sandwich that contains no animal products.

derxa · 28/10/2017 16:05

www.peta.org.uk/blog/top-vegan-high-tea/
Is it any of these places? I'm sure the food will be fine but the kids will be bored witless.

SilverySurfer · 28/10/2017 16:19

SpinnerDryer
I think YABU.
They wouldn't make you eat a rib eye if they invited you out?

My point exactly. Why is it ok for a vegan to only provide vegan food (I wouldn't eat hummus if you paid me) but not ok for an omnivore to only provide meat? I really don't see the difference, especially as I'm sure the restaurant/hotel could easily provide non vegan food. It's all a bit precious

PurpleDaisies · 28/10/2017 16:20

Why is it ok for a vegan to only provide vegan food (I wouldn't eat hummus if you paid me) but not ok for an omnivore to only provide meat?

Because meals don’t consist of just meat. It’s not that difficult...

HSMMaCM · 28/10/2017 16:38

I took DD to a friend's house for lunch. I knew they would probably cook food she wouldn't want. DH and I agreed if she didn't eat enough we'd supplement it later. In the meantime she could be polite and say thank you.

BertrandRussell · 28/10/2017 16:41

"My point exactly. Why is it ok for a vegan to only provide vegan food (I wouldn't eat hummus if you paid me) but not ok for an omnivore to only provide meat?" Because-as a moment's thought would show you-omnivores can eat vegan food (the clue is in the name) but vegans can't eat meat.
Incidentally, why wouldn't you eat hummus?

CorbynsBumFlannel · 28/10/2017 16:45

But the dd isn't trying to insist the op eat meat! She is vegan and can enjoy vegan food without insisting non vegan guests eat it as well!

SpinnerDryer · 28/10/2017 16:47

vegans can't eat meat.

They could. They choose not to.

Like some children choose not to eat grated carrot & homous inbetween bread.

BertrandRussell · 28/10/2017 16:50

You do realise that hummius is a very widely available mainstream foodstuff, don't you? You can even get Tesco value hummous!

BertrandRussell · 28/10/2017 17:07

Well, hummus is. No idea what hummius is........