Aibu to think a 2 and 5 year old will be fine being vegan for one lunch?

[mauricesom]

It's my birthday next week and I've booked somewhere nice that does a vegan high tea. I've invited my daughter (veggie) and her two sons 7 and 5.

I've booked us all for the vegan high tea but daughter says the children will need ham and cheese else they won't eat it. As I'm paying for it I don't really want to buy things I'm ethically apposed to.

Aibu to think they will be fine with hummus and carrot sandwiches for one meal? They both eat food like that at my house without any issues.

In this instance probably the only thing that may be an issue is the sandwiches No cream cakes, when I was a child that would have been the bit that I missed

There will be other cakes though granny.

Vegan cakes can be just as delicious as ones which aren’t.

I make an amazing vegan chocolate cake. Not the one with avocado though. That was wierd. And horrible. Did I say it was wierd?,

I know, unfortunately my cream cake days are behind me, an unfortunate aspect of getting older is my digestive system isn't as robust as it was. How I missing a big cream cake, in fact I did have one when it was my birthday and it was lovely but I suffered for it. I make cakes that I love and can eat without suffering. I was just pointing out that a vegan tea wouldn't just involve sandwich choices. No milk in your tea for example and actually I am fine with soya or rice milk but I have friends who can't take them so when they are coming round I buy milk that they like.

The texture of avocado cakes is just wrong.

I wouldn’t have known the chocolate coffee cake I had in a cafe yesterday was vegan except for the label.

My Mum makes a lovely vegan chocolate cake, with ground almonds and chestnut puree.

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Having an all vegetarian buffet is an excellent idea, I wish it was more common. Because the alternative is often a dull combination of ham sandwiches, sausage rolls, pork pies and cocktail sausages, which are all virtually the same food.

And then if someone dares to pick up an onion bhaji or cheese sandwich, they are accused of unreasonably stealing food out of the mouths of all the vegetarians when all they are doing is trying to get something that isn't processed pork or pastry based.

BarbaraofSevillle

Yes although in fairness our office caterers did a reasonable range and its sandwich/non pastry based for the savouries.

I think it was partly novelty value of the veggie options and halal/kosher eaters being a bit nervous about sourcing or cross contamination on meat and fish.

We already had a high percentage veggie content but it was always the meat and fish left over. I'm just amused that for all the angst here about the horror of eating a single vegan meal we have large numbers of verey committed meat eaters who have not even noticed the change.

From what I can tell, the issue is not whether the food is vegan or not but rather that the OPs daughter is worried about taking her kids somewhere that they may not like anything to eat, whine about it and spoil it for everyone else. OP may not share her daughter's concerns and that's fine, but should still be able to recognise them as valid concerns.

I’m a totally “they must have meat or cheese” kind of parent and even I would be “meh” over this one. They won’t starve.

There is nothing wrong with vegan food. My DM is vegan, I happily feed DS vegan food. This has nothing to do with whether the food is vegan or not. What is wrong is that you are forcing them to align with your choices and your principles, when there is an alternative available that they would prefer. If they would prefer a different option that is available, to dictate they can't have it because of your principles is unfair.

This isn’t a buffet or a spread put on at home though. You can’t compare that to eating out at a cafe or restaurant. At a cafe/restaurant people should be able to choose what they eat. Clearly the dd and children COULD have meat or cheese as the op has said it would be against her ethics not that it is unavailable.

Those saying you should be able to choose what you eat? You are aware it's an afternoon tea, right?! The very nature that it is a pick and choose what you like.
Nobody's going to drop down dead having to go without a lump of meat for a few hours, surely?
I'm a meat eater as well! This thread's crackers.

pumpkin quick, put some meat on those crackers before people realise it's vegan

At a cafe/restaurant people should be able to choose what they eat

Its afternoon tea. Afternoon tea is a set menu, there may be a couple of options of set menu.

Afternoon tea menus in my experience also tend to be for multiples so if you have a party of four its the set menu for four. We don't know if the restaurant/hotel chosen even has a meat option.

Its one meal, with food the DC normally eat, plus the usual cakes and scones.

So obviously the OP should find somewhere she can order a meat based afternoon tea, ensuring she can't eat most of it (dairy/eggs in the cakes) on the off chance that the meat option includes ham sandwiches for a faddy five year old.

Except the 5 year old isn't faddy from the sounds of it.
The very word vegan seems to throw people into a strop.

Except the 5 year old isn't faddy from the sounds of it

Well i was deriving that from the fact that they eat vegan at OP's house but their DM says they wouldn't eat vegan at the venue.

The very word vegan seems to throw people into a strop.

Yes, pretty much every time this comes up.

The very word vegan seems to throw people into a strop

Doesn’t it just!

WON’T SOMEBODY THINK OF THE CHILDREN’S CALCIUM/PROTEIN INTAKE?!?!!!

I’m also bemused at the lack of understanding around the nature of afternoon tea. Unless I’ve been doing it wrong thinking it’s a set menu thing. Next time I go for one I’m going to order steak. BECAUSE NO ONE TELLS ME WHAT I CAN AND CAN’T ORDER MOTHER FUCKAAAAS!!!

Why are people still comparing high tea
To going to a restaurant? It’s completely different. It’s a set menu. Something that restaurants also offer. Like the restaurant set menu it’s fixed price for a certain number of people.

Because they obviously could accommodate non vegans but the op doesn't want to.

A set menu generally has different options. I would feel the same if someone told me I had to have the tomato soup for a starter followed by lasagna.

But they are accommodating non vegans. They are providing food.

I have not read the thread so sorry if I repeat. I am a mum who had fussy eaters and I wonder if its that the daughter knows she will have moaning and kids being annoying so it won't be fun for anyone either her or her mum? If its meant to be a treat she might think it a waste of time and money for her mum. My solution was to take a lunch box out with me.

Just like the high tea menu will have different things. It won’t be hummus and carrot sandwiches, chocolate cake and lentil tarts.

She cannot order vegan option for one and a vegetarian option for one. If she ordered the vegetarian option chances are she would eat nothing and if she opted for alcohol she can also have something to drink.

If she had an allergy and to have a chance of eating anything so went with the vegan option, would that still be unacceptable?

A set menu generally has different options

For afternoon tea? Not IME. Its assumed that within the set menu there is enough choice. The only option I've seen within an afternoon tea menu is to add alcohol.