Paying £100's for mongrels

[dimondjedi9]

All I have seen on Facebook is adverts selling so called ‘designer’ puppies for ridiculous amounts of money.
All these Jackerpoos, cockerpoo, yorkieshit etc are basically mongrels, it amazes me why people would pay £700+ for a mongrel.
The definition of mongrel is:
Any animal resulting from the crossing of different breeds or types.
We rescued our little Westie from travellers, she had been bred and bred until she became of no use, the amount of different puppies they were selling was unreal, crossing them with everything.
Surely the worry will be that if these dogs keep being inbred all the time then the true breed will disappear, Facebook should ban the selling of any animal, especially on the run up to xmas!

all pedigrees are cross breeds of some sort

Dead right!

And all pedigrees are "designer dogs" too - designed to follow carriages (dalmation), herd cattle (corgi), rescue drowning seamen (newfoundland), guard temples (lhasa apso) - I could go on! EVERY pedigree dog started out as selective breeding to produce a useful animal for a specialised purpose, even if that purpose was sitting on a lady's knee looking sweet!

Sadly,the characteristics that were developed in a lot of breeds to make them good for purpose have now been over developed to the point where the animal is often barely a dog.

However to the people who say "I have an allergy and couldn't have had a dog unless I bought a shi-poo/cockerpoo.labradoodle/etc" - That's RUBBISH!

1. not ALL poodle crosses are hypoallergenic - and those that are aren't so for all people

2. what's wrong with just getting a poodle? or a bedlington terrier? or another non-shedding breed?

There are a lot of beautiful little cross=bred dogs and I can see why people want them, however from the perspective of the dogs themselves, it has made them into a living toy/accessory to many people. They buy them, see them, breed them, dump them, pass them on without a though - and that goes for dogs
which have cost a LOT of money, too.

How does the next generation of designer dogs work? Will a cockerpoo mating with another cockerpoo produce a better 'design' or will 2nd generation crosses have watered-down characteristics and thus be less desirable?

There are no guarantees hippy - that is whit is so difficult to establish new recognised breeds - breeding them is easy, producing an animal that breeds true to "type`" over successive generations isn't.

Labradoodles, cockerpoos etc tend to revert to one or other parental type in the second and subsequent generations - but because there is always that bit of the other parent in there, it can spring forth in a litter when it is least expected.

Even most established breeds have "sports" or throwbacks that pop up every now and then - sometimes these are good and sometimes not, but when you are breeding a dog so that it is (say) non-allergenic, you could end up making someone ill if the pup you sell them has allergy producing dander form a grand[arent.

A dog is a dog. Worth far more than even £1000 to most people. It's not like you invest in a pure bred usually for anything other than your own pleasure till it dies so why does it matter if you invest in a mixed breed for your own pleasure until it dies.

I have always tended to get crossbreed mongrels, rather than pure breeds. My parents did so I always have.

That said, when looking for cross breeds... they are either "designer" crosses as suggested or two breeds that I personally wouldn't like around small children (I don't want to offend saying breeds, we all know exemptions).

We currently do have a cavapoo, but this was adopted and we didn't (and wouldn't) pay £700 for

I've had completely neurotic spaniels and really chilled ones, but the one constant I've found is that you can't physically tire them out, they just get fitter and fitter! I've found that the trick seems to be to exercise the nose rather than the rest of the dog and then they come inside and go flop quite happily.

All my spaniels have been rescues from a breed-specific rescue, but my collie, who is a working sheepdog, I bought as a puppy and will do the same again when I have enough sheep to merit a second - starting from a blank canvas is much, much easier than undoing someone else's mistakes and I specifically need a dog who's been bred to give the best chance of being a good hill dog, as I'm on common grazings and my sheep can wander over thousands of acres.

I was offered a chipoo about 6 m before i was ready for a dog. Cost the owner £1000. They needed a poodle cross because their son was allergic to dogs.

Yeah. Including this “chipoo”. I am willing to bet it was a puppy farm to or a) they could have returned it to breeder, and b) a decent breeder would have insisted they meet the dog several times beforehand to check how he reacted.

They are not being bred for allergy reasons. They are being bought because people know nothing about genetics and have bought into the idea that crossing a poodle with another breed is somehow “better”.

We had a lovely working cocker, chosen to fit in with our family, both parents were working dogs, full pedigrees and health scored, so we knew what we would be getting.
Our neighbours bought a labradoodle for allergy reasons. He's not stopped growing yet and looks more lab. These designer dogs are not breeds, they are a lottery.

Sounds like he is F2 (product of two labradoodles)and his genetic lottery win is the appearance of a labrador with the size of a standard poodle.

Fakename not all KC registered dogs are bred to KC conformation - notably the gundog breeds.** Working labs and spaniels look very different to the show types as they are bred for ability not appearance.

Absolutely. My lab is pure bred from working stock and a lovely bloodline. He is stunning, long, lean, can run like a greyhound and is in perfect health. Nothing whatsoever like the lumbering tree trunk of a lab that heaved itself round the Crufts show ring. I’d like to see that work a full days shoot. Wouldn’t last five minutes.

I’m thrilled for your lab (and love your username), but he can’t run like a grey.

I'd rather people didn't deliberately breed them Dixie

We got our mongeral for £150, purebreed dobermans were asking for nearly £800! I think he’s lovely- 7 years old now.

I doubt that mongrels will die out Dixie - there will always be genuine accidents - and those probably will be healthy puppies - they product of a dog and bitch determined and intelligent enough to get away from their human chaperones to consummate their love!

He's a very handsome lad Tinysarah - looks in amazing condition as well - you'd think he had been french polished, his coat is so shiny.

Both my SIL's have mongrels with countless health issuesskin, back, jointswhereas my 13.5-year-old pug keeps ticking along in perfect health, and hasn't cost me much more than his adoption fee from a rescue. I didn't really want a pug, because of all the health issues, but I guess I got lucky.

My new puppy is a pug/Border terrier/Yorkie mix. He's also a rescue. He gets stopped all the time because he's so cute, and I just say he's a terrier mix, as it kills me to see people pay top dollar for these mixes when there are a ton of pedigree and non-pedigree dogs crying out for homes.

YANBU

Rescue DDog is a cross that could be referred to by a portmanteau 'breed' name. I point blank refuse to. If people ask what he is I say he's Breed A cross Breed B.

I'm baffled as to why the word mongrel has gone out of fashion - if you tell another dog walker he's a mongrel you sometimes get a look like you've just referred to your own child as being fugly

MsAdorable I’ve got three - all of which look entirely different despite being a mother and two of her pups from the same litter.**
I’m forever asked what my youngest bitch is crossed with because she’s lean (though I’d like an extra kilo or too off her but hey ho it’s the off-season, it happens) as well as being a fox red.* Too many folk have never seen a lab how they should look (used to Crufts barrels and lardarse pets).*

We bought one... for my DH's allergy reasons. In my area (not UK) there are no poodle breeders where I could meet the breeder, dogs etc.

We bought a wool coat labradoodle, met the parents and the puppy to check (as best we could) for no allergies. And it has worked, although my DH is allergic to her fleece coat sister (who we know the owner and catch up with).

So for us, it was pay the money for a cross, or have no dog. We're very happy, and don't care one jot if you scoff. Better than money spent on gambling and beer.

Go to the Dog shelter and rescue any type of dog. A donation and give a dog a second chance at a lovely life. Never buy a puppy as they just help support puppy farms where dogs are maltreated.

Go to the Dog shelter and rescue any type of dog

Not everyone wants or can accommodate a rescue dog, for many reasons.

Never buy a puppy as they just help support puppy farms where dogs are maltreated

Erm, no it doesn't. In some cases maybe, but certainly not every case.

Your dog is very handsome TinySarah.

I once posted something similar on here. One poster asked if I disagree with black and white people making babies lol 🙈

That is amazing! Sorry I know you posted this ages ago but it made me laugh out loud!