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To have excluded ds2 from pizza treat and fed him spaghetti on toast? Because ex thinks I was

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theduchessstill · 25/10/2017 12:45

Two dc aged 10 & 8. Since they broke up on Friday the sitting room has become more and more toy-filled. At the weekend they built a civilisation involving pretty much every toy they own, and did play with it a lot. They didn't want to put it away as they intended to play with it again, but we've been out a lot since then and they never did.

Day out yesterday and I bought pizza on the way home as treat 'final' tea with me before they go to their dad's, which they did this morning. I made it clear they would have to clear up the sitting room before I cooked it. When we got in, ds2 refused: put one thing away and then sat whining. Ds1 got on with it without complaining. To my shame, ds2 also stuck his middle finger up at me several times (new thing he seems to have picked up from school I suppose). We had been down a coalmine and learnt about children who worked in them and at one point ds1 said to ds2, "at least we're not down a mine," and ds2 replied that it was fine for those children as that was the old days. That obviously made me more annoyed.

I followed through on my threat and ds2 ate some of his meal and spent the rest of the mealtime lying under the kitchen table where he planned to stay forever, being surreptitiously fed onion rings by ds1 (I pretended not to notice).

Finally, we talked about it and he apologised, came out, had a tiny slither of pizza and fruit for pudding with his brother. I dropped them off at ex's this morning and have just received a text saying 'Ds2 is starving after no proper meal last night, while ds2 had pizza. Can you clarify?'

FFS, I don't know what to reply. Why should I answer to him after the way he carries on? Was I wrong? Would I be wrong not to reply/ or reply something very terse? Ds1 would be more than capable of giving an honest account of what happened.

OP posts:
BernardBlacksHangover · 25/10/2017 14:15

I don't think yabu. Your DH sounds massively condescending and irritating.

That said, when I hand over dc to child care or when they hand over to me, we tend to mention anything that has resulted in a particularly upset child. Eg; nursery told me that Dd was very upset because she thought she wasn't allowed an apple and that it had been temporarily taken off her for no good reason. She'd actually dropped it on the floor and the staff member had taken it away to wash it. They explained when I picked her up what had happened in case DD told me that an adult had nicked her apple and made her cry. I AM NOT SAYING YOU SHOULD HAVE TO DO THIS WITH YOUR EX.

My point is, that children might say things like, "mummy told me I wasn't allowed tea last night, so I'm really hungry now ", and parents do tend to believe them, even if they trust the adult.

wtffgs · 25/10/2017 14:22

He's now replied: 'Ok. Probably best not to let things escalate in future. Will make sure he has a good meal tonight.'

Hmm

He does sound as if he is shit-stirring for sport. That is actually way more harmful than substituting one food for another. I feel sorry for the kids if they are getting these messages from their Dad. Your parenting decision was spot-on Wine

MrsPworkingmummy · 25/10/2017 14:35

His reply is awful! I think you should send @noblegiraffe 's suggested text back to him.

MrsJayy · 25/10/2017 14:35

Hope MrsJayy is ok after the unpleasant attentions earlier

Thank you I am fine i just didn't engage anymore, funny how some people pick on 1 part of a post whenthe rest was perfectly reasonable.anyway

ButchyRestingFace · 25/10/2017 14:44

Well, you're clearly winning at life then aren't you?

Grin
livefornaps · 25/10/2017 14:44

If you don't engage, you win. Feel free to come back here and call him a massive twat though. The twat!

Also @elfin are you the ex's new girlfriend?

JonSnowsWife · 25/10/2017 14:44

Oh tell him to fuck off. To be honest it sounds kine you're DS is trying to play you off against each other. Don't reply to that last text.

DCs love spaghetti hoops on toast! It's more than substantial. I don't make it often but that's because it makes me sick and the smell alone makes me gag. 😷

JonSnowsWife · 25/10/2017 14:46

It'll piss him off more if the op's not playing.

This x 1000.

JonSnowsWife · 25/10/2017 14:48

probably best not to let things escalate in future

Ah you gotta love Disney Dads haven't you? Grin

Wanker.

JonSnowsWife · 25/10/2017 14:52

You are both parents, if you refuse to give the other parent clarity on thr behavuour or what occurred how thr hell do you co parent together and manage your child’s behaviour? Refusing to tell the other parent is unreasonable and not helpful at all.

Exactly. DD got detention recently. It wouldn't have happened if she'd been listening in the first place. She didn't like my reply of telling her to suck it up.

So she waited until she'd seen her Dad and told him how unfair it was. ExDH said the same thing as me. She was most unimpressed! Grin but THAT is co-parenting.

He's being a goady dick. He knows OP wouldn't have starved him.

KinkyAfro · 25/10/2017 14:55

Pizza is a treat in OP's house, she's already stated that, whatever you do in your house doesn't matter

Rainyboooooo · 25/10/2017 14:56

Your ex is an arse. My ex sends me instructions like this, I have learned gradually to ignore, but I do want to use both cauliflowers text back and I also might store up the ‘Well arent you winning at life’ too, I’d bloody love to send that to my ex Grin

DrSeuss · 25/10/2017 14:58

As a teacher, I would say that we need a lot more mums like the OP who set clear boundaries with consequences and are not afraid to follow through. Her children will be far easier to work with than little treasures who constantly get their own way.

Whinesalot · 25/10/2017 15:02

YANBU. Just ignore his game playing. It doesn't matter what he thinks but DS2 will know to take you seriously next time - which is all that matters.

elfinpre · 25/10/2017 15:06

have pizza as a treat because we can't afford to eat out often

I don't eat out often - that's why it's a treat - see? I wasn't having ago at the OP and agreed she was NBU. I was having a go at the MN food/diet police who think that pizza is worse than, I don't know, Fruit Shoots and Pom Bears, probably.

But pizzas are actually quite cheap to buy in supermarkets or to make yourself. Ok take away pizzas are not particularly cheap.

I'm certainly not supporting OP's ex's attitude or comments.

StefMay · 25/10/2017 15:07

You gave your child a choice of food and the actions required to get the perceived "yummier" treat.
He chose not to do what was asked and was still fed a proper meal.

I think the best part of this is that you stood your ground and followed through - well done!!! YANBU

I would text their Dad he did have proper meal and that you'll fill him in at next drop off/collection. This stops the texting and also means your son will panic as you'll be able to tell the truth in front of him :)

nosleepforme · 25/10/2017 15:13

op, good for you that you followed through with ds. yes he got fed, but he chose not to have the spaghetti you offered him. he made a choice!
whilst you know how ex may mean things, i wouldn't take it too serious from him. he heard about an issue, checked with you, end of story. yes he sent a text back saying that he would make sure he ate properly the next night, but who cares?! so let him feed him, that's his job as a parent anyway. the only thing i would have an issue with, is if he bought him the pizza!

diddl · 25/10/2017 15:15

I wonder why your ex thinks that he didn't have a proper meal?

Ceto · 25/10/2017 15:17

I'd go with noblegiraffe's response - 'Refusal to follow simple instructions and extreme rudeness will always be sanctioned in my house. Probably best if they are in yours too.'

ProfessorCat · 25/10/2017 15:18

YANBU for withholding the pizza. His behaviour was unacceptable and your ex is a twunt.

YABU for calling it a "slither" of pizza. It's not a snake.

pallisers · 25/10/2017 15:20

you're a better woman than I am OP. I'd have gone down the phone after him at the "better not to let it escalate next time". And that is if he was still my darling husband. Patronising twat.

Your younger one sounds like a handful. Interesting that he complained to his dad and got a reaction. I bet he has figured out exactly how to play him. Probably not the next parenting in the world but I'd be tempted to ask DS2 why he lied to his father and make sure he knew that yanking his dad's chain wasn't going to have any effect on how you dealt with him - that you are still his mother and the one in control when he is with you.

LineysRun · 25/10/2017 15:20

Why the fuck is some knobber having a go at MrsJayy?

And elfinpre you might want to re-read your earlier post about spaghetti which was to my mind extremely condescending - I think the OP gets enough of that off her Ex, tbh.

NoFucksImAQueen · 25/10/2017 15:21

YABU for calling it a "slither" of pizza. It's not a snake.

Slither is perfectly valid

NoCryLilSoftSoft · 25/10/2017 15:22

Ds2 is starving after no proper meal last night, while ds2 had pizza. Can you clarify?'

So did your DS not have breakfast this morning?

The “can you clarify” would have me throwing the phone at the wall. I wouldn’t respond. What a knobby comment.

Btw- from experience, associating food with behaviour and/or emotions is not a path I would recommend you go down.

NoCryLilSoftSoft · 25/10/2017 15:23

Also, it’s sliver.