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To have excluded ds2 from pizza treat and fed him spaghetti on toast? Because ex thinks I was

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theduchessstill · 25/10/2017 12:45

Two dc aged 10 & 8. Since they broke up on Friday the sitting room has become more and more toy-filled. At the weekend they built a civilisation involving pretty much every toy they own, and did play with it a lot. They didn't want to put it away as they intended to play with it again, but we've been out a lot since then and they never did.

Day out yesterday and I bought pizza on the way home as treat 'final' tea with me before they go to their dad's, which they did this morning. I made it clear they would have to clear up the sitting room before I cooked it. When we got in, ds2 refused: put one thing away and then sat whining. Ds1 got on with it without complaining. To my shame, ds2 also stuck his middle finger up at me several times (new thing he seems to have picked up from school I suppose). We had been down a coalmine and learnt about children who worked in them and at one point ds1 said to ds2, "at least we're not down a mine," and ds2 replied that it was fine for those children as that was the old days. That obviously made me more annoyed.

I followed through on my threat and ds2 ate some of his meal and spent the rest of the mealtime lying under the kitchen table where he planned to stay forever, being surreptitiously fed onion rings by ds1 (I pretended not to notice).

Finally, we talked about it and he apologised, came out, had a tiny slither of pizza and fruit for pudding with his brother. I dropped them off at ex's this morning and have just received a text saying 'Ds2 is starving after no proper meal last night, while ds2 had pizza. Can you clarify?'

FFS, I don't know what to reply. Why should I answer to him after the way he carries on? Was I wrong? Would I be wrong not to reply/ or reply something very terse? Ds1 would be more than capable of giving an honest account of what happened.

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MrsJayy · 25/10/2017 13:05

He is a twat because of his wording in the text it is very accusing and twatty behaviour.

Alittlepotofrosie · 25/10/2017 13:06

Your ex shouldn't be getting involved. Sure fire way for the kids to learn they can play you off against each other.

MrsJayy · 25/10/2017 13:07

I am not suggesting the op calls herex a twat

Santawontbelong · 25/10/2017 13:07

Tell him in future you will build a chokey in the garden instead. .
But you will continue to discipline the dc when necessary. .

designatedSurvivorer · 25/10/2017 13:07

and definitely not because you're a bitter divorce

Hmm
theduchessstill · 25/10/2017 13:08

*Why is he a twat?

If the reverse were posted then surely the sensible advice would be to send a message asking for clarification?*

Maybe - but he should know me well enough to be able to guess as the reality, rather than thinking there would be a possibility of my just half starving ds2 for shits and giggles. And I know ds1 will have told him exactly what happened - I often get tales of what's gone on when they're at ex's and they are quick to grass on each other. I think ex is a twat, but I would never assume he had done something like this just to be cruel .

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Steeley113 · 25/10/2017 13:08

Hopefully he sees sense in the text. Kids eh?

BakedBeans47 · 25/10/2017 13:08

I’d have ignored the ex. Surely he knows you’re not going to have left your child without food? He’s just being arsey

designatedSurvivorer · 25/10/2017 13:08

@MrsJayy

"I am not suggesting the op calls herex a twat"

That is exactly what you suggested.

PinkHeart5914 · 25/10/2017 13:09

Well you don’t actually know what your ds said to his dad, so I think the dad is right to ask for clarification tbh I certainly would if it was my child. Why not just explain what happened? Confused

CauliflowerSqueeze · 25/10/2017 13:09

Has the ex replied yet?
I think your text was very fair.

MovingOnUpMovingOnOut · 25/10/2017 13:09

Clarify? Wtf does he think he is? He's not your boss.

He was fed. Your punishment sounds fine and proportionate. You made the threat and then followed through.

I would text back at my leisure: he was fed.

FlowerPot1234 · 25/10/2017 13:10

Bit late and I see you have already responded, but no, YANBU and well done for disciplining your misbehaving child and sitting down and talking to them too such that they apologised.

designatedSurvivorer · 25/10/2017 13:11

@theduchessstill

Sorry, keep x-posting.

There're shades of grey between thinking someone's cruel and wanting clarification.

United parenting is important and you need to get that chip off your shoulder.

My DH often clarifies punishments with me and then reinforces them.

BakedBeans47 · 25/10/2017 13:11

The ex’s text is a lot of shite anyway. Presumably the child has since had breakfast, so unlikely to be “starving” 🙄

MovingOnUpMovingOnOut · 25/10/2017 13:11

No it isn't DesignatedSurvivor. That is not what MrsJayy said at all.

MrsJayy · 25/10/2017 13:12

Scoring out is meant to beinner thoughts it is mumsnet sarcasim

Bluntness100 · 25/10/2017 13:14

There is nothing accusatory in his text, the child has clearly said he isn’t starving as he wasn’t given dinner. Saying he should be able to guess is daft. He probably said to your son, ok I’ll check with your mum, you best not be lying.

In addition your ex probably thinks you’re as much of a twat as you think he is, but that shouldn’t stop you co parenting.

designatedSurvivorer · 25/10/2017 13:15

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ElizabethShaw · 25/10/2017 13:16

He didn't get a treat due to his appalling behaviour. He had tea and breakfast so clearly wasn't starving!

What message would it have sent to him, and DS1, if he behaved like that then got a treat anyway?

messyjessy17 · 25/10/2017 13:17

o I think the dad is right to ask for clarification tbh I certainly would if it was my child. Why not just explain what happened?

Because she doesn't answer to him, does not have to explain or clarify to him. She is their mother, she can do as she pleases, and it is not his business.

theduchessstill · 25/10/2017 13:17

United parenting is important and you need to get that chip off your shoulder.

Well thank you for the advice. I shall endeavour to get that chip off my shoulder indeed. Tell that to my ex about the united parenting - he enforces no discipline afaict, and constantly badmouths me to the dc. But hey, I have a vagina so it must be my fault we divorced and that I'm a tad bitter about everything, yes?

My DH often clarifies punishments with me and then reinforces them

How nice for you and your DH. It's sometimes a little more complicated that when people are no longer together you know, even if one/both of them tries their best to make it work. I am pretty certain that ex will sympathise with ds2 having heard the story, and probably get him pizza tonight...

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VladmirsPoutine · 25/10/2017 13:18

I think you've behaved entirely reasonably. Swap out pizza for McDonalds or whatever else - the same still stands. If you're good then we'll stop by McDonalds on way home, behaviour goes haywire = no McDonalds. It's really that simple. Not as if you've starved him.

As for the ex, not sure what your relationship is like but I wouldn't be falling over myself to justify your actions to him.

LoverOfCake · 25/10/2017 13:18

I think the ex is fair enough to ask for clarification. After all DS2 has given him his side "I wasn't given any dinner last night even though DS1 was," how can the ex respond to that if he doesn't have the whole story? I.e.if my DC came home from ex's and started saying that "I am starving because I wasn't given anything to eat," I might have text to ask what actually happened so that I could either commiserate if ex had been in the wrong or tell him that if he behaved like a spoiled brat then he can hardly be upset with his dad for not giving him treats.

As for the wording of the text, the screen does not convey emotion, it wasn't aggressive it wasn't accusing, so the wording IMO is fine.

As for your punishment, he'd have been lucky to get spaghetti on toast in my house with that attitude so yanbu. Grin.

viques · 25/10/2017 13:21

Mrs over the road

"Can you clarify" is fine. The child is still sulking and has clearly told a tale of cruelty and neglect, no doubt starting with his mother booking him in for a shift of child labour down a coal mine and ending with him lying on the cold kitchen floor eating scraps of toast fed to him by his brother. I hope the ex has the sense to see through him attempting to play parents off against each other.