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To have excluded ds2 from pizza treat and fed him spaghetti on toast? Because ex thinks I was

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theduchessstill · 25/10/2017 12:45

Two dc aged 10 & 8. Since they broke up on Friday the sitting room has become more and more toy-filled. At the weekend they built a civilisation involving pretty much every toy they own, and did play with it a lot. They didn't want to put it away as they intended to play with it again, but we've been out a lot since then and they never did.

Day out yesterday and I bought pizza on the way home as treat 'final' tea with me before they go to their dad's, which they did this morning. I made it clear they would have to clear up the sitting room before I cooked it. When we got in, ds2 refused: put one thing away and then sat whining. Ds1 got on with it without complaining. To my shame, ds2 also stuck his middle finger up at me several times (new thing he seems to have picked up from school I suppose). We had been down a coalmine and learnt about children who worked in them and at one point ds1 said to ds2, "at least we're not down a mine," and ds2 replied that it was fine for those children as that was the old days. That obviously made me more annoyed.

I followed through on my threat and ds2 ate some of his meal and spent the rest of the mealtime lying under the kitchen table where he planned to stay forever, being surreptitiously fed onion rings by ds1 (I pretended not to notice).

Finally, we talked about it and he apologised, came out, had a tiny slither of pizza and fruit for pudding with his brother. I dropped them off at ex's this morning and have just received a text saying 'Ds2 is starving after no proper meal last night, while ds2 had pizza. Can you clarify?'

FFS, I don't know what to reply. Why should I answer to him after the way he carries on? Was I wrong? Would I be wrong not to reply/ or reply something very terse? Ds1 would be more than capable of giving an honest account of what happened.

OP posts:
flyingpigsinclover · 25/10/2017 15:24

I wouldn't reply to the text; your child was fed and is not starving. It's none of his father's business.

Iamagreyhoundhearmeroar · 25/10/2017 15:25

No it isn't "perfectly valid". The word is sliver.

NoCryLilSoftSoft · 25/10/2017 15:29

Ok. Probably best not to let things escalate in future. Will make sure he has a good meal tonight.'

Oh he is a prick!! Ignore him in future unless it’s about contact arrangements.

VladmirsPoutine · 25/10/2017 15:29

Typical MN: "Was I BU to of thrown my toddler off a balcony?"

MN: "Yabu for using 'of'"

stopfuckingshoutingatme · 25/10/2017 15:33

you have my DC!!!! little fuckers

send Matilda's text

theduchessstill · 25/10/2017 15:36

My youngest is a handful, yes, though not at school or when he visits friends by all accounts, so I hang onto that. And I definitely think he plays ex and I off against each other. He often says to me stuff like "I can't wait to go to dad's," and I know he gets pretty much unlimited screen time there so I do think it's a tactic. I just smile brightly and say "how lovely," or something, but I'd like to know how ex reacts if he tries similar with him.

To clarify on the treat front, pizza is a treat because they really like it, not because it's a rare luxury. Though the nicest supermarket pizzas aren't cheap, imo, at £5 a pop. We need at least two for the three of us, and a nice salad with maybe onion rings... Tinned spaghetti is a useful thing to have in the cupboard. I wasn't going to rustle him up something homemade as that would have been a punishment for me, not him. Personally, I don't like it but do like toast that's been soaked in it and may have stolen some from his
abandoned plate when he was under the table.

It is indeed sliver, no idea why I put slither Blush.

OP posts:
ProfessorCat · 25/10/2017 15:37

Sliver is perfectly valid

Not when describing a sliver of pizza.

ProfessorCat · 25/10/2017 15:37

Slither, argh!! Grin

OP - You sound like a great mum who stands by what she says which is very important. Your ex should be backing you. I

Worriedrose · 25/10/2017 15:46

Well done for not engaging. It would have taken me 2 seconds to tell him to fuck the fuck off to fucking twat land.
But you are clearly much wiser than me!!!

Just think about how much he's stewing over you not engaging

NoFucksImAQueen · 25/10/2017 15:46

Well according to the oxford dictionary a slither of bacon is fine, why is pizza not?

NoFucksImAQueen · 25/10/2017 15:47

This can be my new thing to learn for the day

MovingOnUpMovingOnOut · 25/10/2017 15:49

Thank fuck you said that Liney I was a bit surprised nobody was sticking up for her. In the old days nobody would have stood for such nonsense

Glad you're ok MrsJayy.

Ah but I see the pedants are out so all is right with MN the world again Grin

Goshthatwentwell · 25/10/2017 15:52

I'd have texted back that first one with " what are you talking about he had spaghetti on toast pizza and fruit". Let him do the clarifying.

Secondly I would now be texting back. " I do think we need to esculate our rules on behaviour. DS has learn some new sign language which needs to stop. Can you have a word with him please"

diddl · 25/10/2017 15:54

" And I definitely think he plays ex and I off against each other. "

Was he hoping for a "treat" from his dad do you think?

Overreaction1 · 25/10/2017 15:55

Haven't read all the way through but it sounds like u made a rule. He broke it u followed through on the consequence. Yanbu. It's a life lesson.
Next time he knows if he can't behave there will be a consequence.
What was the alternative? Let ds1 clean everything up. Then you say ok ds2 you have some pizza with your brother it doesn't really matter that you didn't help clear up.
He wasn't starved, he just didn't get the treat of having pizza as he wasn't well behaved enough.

pallisers · 25/10/2017 15:57

Can't believe you are bothering to defend having pizza as a treat or tinned spaghetti as anything. MN can be utterly bizarre but I think this:

Food is not a treat

may be my favourite post on here.

Sunshineandshopping · 25/10/2017 15:58

Learn to make your own pizza, and get a pizza stone to bake it on. Amazingly delicious and much less expensive. Plus you can get more veg on.

haveagobletofblood · 25/10/2017 16:00

Learn to make your own pizza, and get a pizza stone to bake it on. Amazingly delicious and much less expensive. Plus you can get more veg on.

^ is this a joke??

Overreaction1 · 25/10/2017 16:04

In my house certain foods are a treat. Healthy diet 90% of the time and one occasion per week we will have something less healthy but delicious.
Like once or twice per week ds would have some sweets as a snack. Not a daily thing. On occasions yes as a treat. If he had behaved badly and I was planning to give him some sweets, he wouldn't get them and I would tell him why. Consequences.

theduchessstill · 25/10/2017 16:04

I won't be making my own pizza - was something ex did and that fucking stone did my head in - it was his pride and joy, along with the rarely used pasta machine. Nope. If I want a pizza I will buy it, life is hard enough as it is without shit like that to make it harder.

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MadMags · 25/10/2017 16:05

Learn to make your own pizza, and get a pizza stone to bake it on. Amazingly delicious and much less expensive. Plus you can get more veg on.

Which is exactly what the thread is about...Hmm

ProfessorCat · 25/10/2017 16:05

@Nofucksimaqueen

It's an eggcorn.

The underclass started mistaking sliver for slither years ago and it's now classed as an eggcorn but is still incorrect Smile

That pizza stone comment has to be a joke.

WhyWouldYouThinkThat · 25/10/2017 16:05

The ex's text might not have been meant in an accusatory way, he might have just wanted to know what had happened. He could have worded it better.

Redpony1 · 25/10/2017 16:05

Learn to make your own pizza, and get a pizza stone to bake it on. Amazingly delicious and much less expensive. Plus you can get more veg on
That's hilarious & totally irrelevant!

But I don't get the MN "pizza is a treat" thing, in general. It's a standard Saturday night meal for us, perhaps two or three Saturdays a month, either home made or supermarket, with a salad. A meal out to a nice restaurant is a treat, not normal inexpensive food. Though if normal food were tinned spaghetti (which I didn't know still existed and disappeared off my radar pretty much after I discovered real spaghetti in about 1987) then perhaps pizza would be a treat...
Well you're a bundle of condescending joy aren't you!?
Pizza is most definitely a treat, i wouldn't dream of having it more than once a month at most. Oh, and tinned spaghetti is a fab cupboard essential to most people.

MadMags · 25/10/2017 16:05

duchess I know it's best not to engage but I'd be so tempted!

"Probably best not to be a pompous dickhead either, huh?"