Is there a similar forum to MN for men? And if not, why not?

[Multidimensionalbeing]

Because I think there should be.

I don't hate men though it will probably be suggested. I really don't. And I think the forum should be open to anyone who wants to use it for advice.

But....It's becoming increasingly strange around here. We've always had the 'what about the menz?' posters derailing threads talking about the harrassment or abuse of women by pointing out that women do it too..... Though it seems worse recently.

But now it seems that so many threads descend into accusations that men are treated differently on MN and often they are. But surely that's because it has a predominantly female membership? Who will see things from the female perspective?

It seems to me that it's causing division and bun-fighting among posters when I genuinely don't understand why there isn't a similar forum available for men?

Why not?

Why does a man join a predominantly female forum to then point out that they're not being treated like a woman? Or....just sit and watch as the women do it for them?

If there is no where else for them on-line then why not?

I'm sure it's possible.

same, all the men posting and stirring up trouble should of course be dealt with. Same as all trolls should.

Absolutely, but i think sometimes that some of the men are just the right side of shit stirring

Some are definitely on a wind up...as are some women obviously

@MrsTerryPratchett

I think if you did a little analysis of this thread what you would see is a lot of different women posting at the beginning then slowly and surely less women, more posts from the same men (and handmaidens), until the other women mostly give up.

HANDMAIDENS?!!! BAHAAAAAHAHA! 😂😂😂

Best post on here!!!

And a very good way to describe a few posters on here. One in particular.

Absolutely, but i think sometimes that some of the men are just the right side of shit stirring Some are definitely on a wind up...as are some women obviously

True.

And now on a thread asking for a women only topic (not going well for the poster on there)

Some complete fuckwit is filling it up with drivel

That, ladies and gentlemen, is proof positive that a women only section wont work

It doesnt work on feminism chat...it wont work anywhere else

this is all getting so meta I'm starting to wonder if I'm in the matrix patriarchy reboot

Which thread is that @rufustherenegadereindeer1/

I do feel sorry for daddie having his thread derailed by an utter twat

Thats why it wont work...gits of all shapes and sizes can come on the threads and just fuck them up

www.mumsnet.com/Talk/site_stuff/3067465-women-s-net

sun

On site stuff

Hopefully the prat will be deleted

Just about everyone was saying it was a bad idea

Well, there you go, that just goes to show that some just cannot help themselves and a women only area just wouldn't work!
People on the thread, actual women saying stuff like who are you to tell us we're doing MN wrong!
God sakes. Here, we have a man actually saying that he doesn't mind a women's only section, he'd be happy to stay away and let women speak by themselves.
Still, STILL they're in the wrong. I rest my case lol. Can't bloody win whatever they do.

that thread was very much a error of judgement by newdaddie, anyone that has been here for any length of time would have known how it was going to go.

Read Newdaddies contributions across the site including "leaving fiance because of fat gene" and him attending Breastfeeding help workshops and giving women advice. He is deeply unpleasant.

Why was just deleted?

So this thread complaining of derailing and threads becoming all about a few male posters has gone the same way. Bingo!!!!

I don't want Mumsnet to be exclusively female, a lot of really good male posters on here. But it's pp like NewDad that do my head in. On a post about breastfeeding being advised that he should not have been in the room with the breastfeeding mums and instead of listening to us start harping on about his right to be there and posting lots of 'hilarious jokes'.

Just not getting the damn point.

Also any posts about violence being hijacked by men and handmaidens. Then pp who have had terrible experiences are told off for being too ranty and angry. Ffs, the whole point is that sometimes we need a space to release that anger, before we can move forward, and if the only place you have is Mumsnet then post away.

The pp about this forum being too middle and upper middle class, well in someways I like Mumsnet for that as I love hearing from intelligent well educated women especially on the feminism boards, but some posts are a bit insulting to women like myself from a working class background. Pp usually point that out though in the threads.

Sorry my grammar on that post is fucked. I'm ill and tired, hope it's some what readable.

I agree titania

Trueheart1

some of newdaddies posts are wow!, is the best I can come up with at the moment. I do see what you mean.

With regard to his women's net thread, it is just a very stupid thing for a man to post and was never going to go down well.

I echo boneys wow

Boney, I dislike what and how the OP posts. I would however love one single topic that was free of men, I know it would be impossible to police but it might stop the posters who announce that they are all insightful men come to give their more valuable opinions.
I am just so sick of men and their cheerleaders destroying so many threads.
I understand women should not have to hide away but I can't see any other way to get a conversation going that isn't ruined by a small group of men.

Trueheart1

I do understand, and I have no answer, repeating what has been posted by others, a woman only tag would just generate trolls or similar responses. Even a women only section would be like a rag to a bull, with some men seeing it as a challenge to get in to the section.

Surely one way to deal with this is to allow all to contribute and either 'call out' or ignore posts that are obvious derailers? Their gross stupidity of inconsistent 'logic' would show them up. Don't feed the trolls.

I think people do out

But nothing ever seems to happen

out ime calling out often contributes to the derailment.

Ignoring is probably the way forward (?) but I've never been on a thread where everyone has managed it. Perhaps we just need practice

what

Usually poster A says ignore

Poster BCand D give it a good try

Poster A gets so incensed that they have a go

Posters B C and D give up and start arguing again