Is there a similar forum to MN for men? And if not, why not?

[Multidimensionalbeing]

Because I think there should be.

I don't hate men though it will probably be suggested. I really don't. And I think the forum should be open to anyone who wants to use it for advice.

But....It's becoming increasingly strange around here. We've always had the 'what about the menz?' posters derailing threads talking about the harrassment or abuse of women by pointing out that women do it too..... Though it seems worse recently.

But now it seems that so many threads descend into accusations that men are treated differently on MN and often they are. But surely that's because it has a predominantly female membership? Who will see things from the female perspective?

It seems to me that it's causing division and bun-fighting among posters when I genuinely don't understand why there isn't a similar forum available for men?

Why not?

Why does a man join a predominantly female forum to then point out that they're not being treated like a woman? Or....just sit and watch as the women do it for them?

If there is no where else for them on-line then why not?

I'm sure it's possible.

I think the problem OP is your wanting this to be a safe, female only space when it's neither and it doesn't seem like that's what the admins want.

Why would they?

What do you actually want? Lots of female posters telling each other how shit men are ?

I'm also confused about the rest of the internet "being for men"? Bullshit. People are free to join all public forums and other parts of the internet. In fact, many predominantly male sites are much more welcoming and friendly.

The agenda you wish to enforce doesn't appeal to most of us. Feel free to start your own forum where proof of sex is required and you'll have a nice little echo chamber to bitch and moan in.

Krytens undoubtably true. Why this thread though?

As ever this thread is its own best demonstration. Women trying to have a conversation about their experience of threads getting derailed and dominated by male posters ... and 600 posts in the thread is completely dominated by a male poster.

[facepalm]

Krytens undoubtably true. Why this thread though?

Well, I'd have thought the title of the thread would be self explanatory! If you say "Is there a similar forum to MN for men?" it stands to reason good people to answer would be you know, Dads themselves as they're more likely to know!

www.womenonlyforums.com/content.php

Wooh google

30 users online. Front page threads with 2 comments in a week

But there is no legal case against HW. So no need to embargo. He hasn't even been spoken to yet afaik.

There's every need to embargo when anything in print can be used as a publication.

Well, there you go then. There are female only sites out there. For women to speak freely. Or anyone could start their own up.

I wonder if you realise how offensive your request actually is?

A site that's predominantly for women, yet you want us to have our own sub-forum where we're all coralled away from the rest of the site, allowing men to post there?

If you don't realise how offensive this is, then you're stupid.

If you do realise how offensive this might be, then you're clearly here as a MRA-type poster.

You're welcome to post here as long as you do so in the spirit of the site. Which you appear to be too dense to understand

Good point @BIWI

JSW - am not sure what you are stating. If there is no legal.process then everyone can say what they wish within libel and deformation/insults etc.

its seriously not worth their time and effort to have it open for comments.

have you forgot how stupid many internet users are?

mn cant trust its users about a certain missing girl and just instadeletes because its just easier. online newspapers do the same

Ive found this an intresting but a bit bonkers thread
Mumsnet, to me, is a predominately parenting site but with loads of topics that aren't for one sex or another, The Great Outdoors, camping, skiing, musc and films are all interesting. The AIBU isn't always about kids more about CF neighbours!
As for the ridiculous statement The clue is in the title , mumsnet maybe on that line of thinking dads shouldn't gottt into Mothercare either ( rolls eyes)
Over the years I've seen many posts saying things such as 'just because he has a penis' or 'just because she has a vagina'. As a way of saying there shouldn't be a difference in the way both sexes should be treated and yet this thread is querying why men are commenting or coming on to a forum . Double standard I guess.

BTW I have had to leave and come back to this post so anything I've said may have been said since I started writing!

I was right, the thread had moved on since I started to write a post.
It truly is bonkers!

@haveagobletofblood

I agree with this ^. If I wanted to talk with other men I'd go to Digital Spy (and I do, sometimes). But I get men's perspectives shoved down my throat nearly every time I switch on the TV or read the news. I don't feel like we should have to explain why we want a place away from men without being accused of man-hating. I don't hate men. I just prefer discussing things with other women. And from what I have seen the men on here don't add anything except for infuriating boring on about how men get abused too and how women should take responsibility for men raping them.

THIS ^ in spades!!!

I’ve realized I do this. I’m on a couple of BAME groups on FB. I’m allowed to be a member, they don’t lock out white people! I don’t comment, I read. A couple of times I’ve been infuriated by things that have been said. But I sit on my hands and try to learn. Because I’m white and the groups already have enough, ‘all lives matter’ and ‘black people are racist too’ white posters.

There are lots of men on this site who listen, comment on things they know about and are supportive to women generally. And then there are those who can’t stand the idea of women talking to each other. Can’t stand the idea of women being without the shining light of male knowledge and power. The shining light that dominates most of the internet and RL. Those people should fuck off. They won’t, because they are more important than us. Very clearly.

There are very few self proclaimed male posters who add anything to the mix. Likewise the self proclaimed female posters who bore on about men’s rights, their lovely sons and husbands and how women are bad too. I like talking to women about what they think! Pages and pages of what men think/ my husband thinks/ we need to consider men about stuff is unutterably dull.

Pumper,

'Yes, you see it as a parenting forum. But this thread isn't about parenting and you've posted a lot on here. What led you to this thread?'

It came up on 'active' and was about men. I am amazed you think that men should not be on a thread which is...ummm...about men. I was interested whether there was a similar forum for men, because I might have enjoyed it.

'As ever this thread is its own best demonstration. Women trying to have a conversation about their experience of threads getting derailed and dominated by male posters ... and 600 posts in the thread is completely dominated by a male poster.'

This thread is about whether men should post on MN and whether there are alternatives available.

I guess it says a lot about how successful MN has been that posters have a sense of ownership over it. However, it often comes across as arrogant. Who cares what the owners of the site say (men are welcome), I will make my own rules and expect others to abide by them.

If you don't like the rules and ethos of a site (as defined by the owners and managers), go find another one more to your liking.

As for the 600 posts, I have made a very tiny proportion of them. I have no wish to 'dominate' and have deliberately not answered questions in order to avoid that accusation (it is a no win situation really). The reality of it is that a miniscule proportion of female posters have posted their opinion over and over again. I suspect a large silent majority of MN users welcome male voices on the site.

Would be interesting for MN to do an anonymous poll, and easy enough to arrange.

Well, larry there are a number of male posters on this thread who have posted without feeling the need to dominate the conversation or explain to women why we're wrong. I don't have a problem with them at all as I've said a few times

Genghis,

I am not going to get involved in a long debate with you (for fear of being accused of dominating the thread) but I have in no sense 'dominated' the thread. I have made my argument and then left it for hours at a time (please review my posts).

I am not explaining to 'women' why 'they' are wrong. I am explaining to particular posters why I disagree with them. Your arrogance is in assuming, despite several women disagreeing with you and being in agreement with me, that you, and several others, really not that many, define what womankind thinks.

Individual women and men have their own voices and, I suspect, don't like to be suborned involuntarily to your cause.

I am not explaining to 'women' why 'they' are wrong. I am explaining to particular posters why I disagree with them. Your arrogance is in assuming, despite several women disagreeing with you and being in agreement with me, that you, and several others, really not that many, define what womankind thinks.

Yes to this. Seems like you're in a no win situation whatever you do. Also, it's not about replying to women, it's disagreeing with a viewpoint. Which is still allowed.

I think if you did a little analysis of this thread what you would see is a lot of different women posting at the beginning then slowly and surely less women, more posts from the same men (and handmaidens), until the other women mostly give up.

A tiny microcosm of what happens in real life frequently. I’ve sat in many rooms with majority women where the majority of voices you hear are male.

check who is talking

(and handmaidens)

handmaidens?

(and handmaidens), until the other women mostly give up.

Not surprised if they have given up really, given the way this thread has gone.
We don't want men to shout us down! Other women shutting down other women until they give up, go away or daren't say anything in the first place is surely not on either. Doing the exact same thing,