Is there a similar forum to MN for men? And if not, why not?

[Multidimensionalbeing]

Because I think there should be.

I don't hate men though it will probably be suggested. I really don't. And I think the forum should be open to anyone who wants to use it for advice.

But....It's becoming increasingly strange around here. We've always had the 'what about the menz?' posters derailing threads talking about the harrassment or abuse of women by pointing out that women do it too..... Though it seems worse recently.

But now it seems that so many threads descend into accusations that men are treated differently on MN and often they are. But surely that's because it has a predominantly female membership? Who will see things from the female perspective?

It seems to me that it's causing division and bun-fighting among posters when I genuinely don't understand why there isn't a similar forum available for men?

Why not?

Why does a man join a predominantly female forum to then point out that they're not being treated like a woman? Or....just sit and watch as the women do it for them?

If there is no where else for them on-line then why not?

I'm sure it's possible.

Just to point out - there ARE women only forums. Somebody posted a link up in the thread.
You have your female only spaces if that's what you want. I have repeatedly said there's nothing wrong with that. Women are entitled to want men only spaces.
They're out there. Join one or start one. So why come onto a site that welcomes both males and females and demand males to go away? You don't get to decide who can and can't speak when Mumsnet have said themselves both are welcome.

you want. I have repeatedly said there's nothing wrong with that. Women are entitled to want men only spaces.

FFS!! That should read female only spaces obviously!

Only a very few posters said men weren't welcome. Very few. Then that was seized on by the usuals and the thread derailed and 'what about the menz' like always.

The most prolific posters on this thread are very clear. As are there reasons.

Their.

Nobody's said anything like "what about the menz."
Again, you're seeing what you want to see.

I'm seeing this situation and your role very clearly thanks.

I'm seeing this situation and your role very clearly thanks.

OK. Leaving aside the baffling my role bit. WHERE have I said women shouldn't be allowed female only spaces? I haven't! Anywhere. I've said of course women should have a female only space if that's where they feel more comfortable.
Mumsnet is for BOTH though. Surely it makes sense to set up a women's only site yourself or use one of the ones already out there than saying men shouldn't be on here? There's been quite a few posts from different posters saying that.

All I can see is on this thread -

• what are men doing on here, you're dominating the conversation, as usual, so go away (even if it's actually a thread about is there a similar forum for men so it'd stand to reason men would come here to either say yes/no or find a new site that they like.)

• So men can't talk on here.

• Women who dare to say that "actually, I don't mind men and women on here, I like conversing with all parents" aren't allowed to speak either, get accused of an agenda or some such shite.

So the only people left to actually be able to speak on here then is the one same view. Basically a big echo chamber of all the same view and everyone else shut down.

Nice.

You've posted on here more than anyone I think. One of the reasons most people stopped. The echo chamber is you.

Women who dare to say that "actually, I don't mind men and women on here, I like conversing with all parents" aren't allowed to speak either, get accused of an agenda or some such shite.

This is not true

I joined to get womens views on men's unreasonable behaviour in relation to marriage and divorce which I have found interesting. I then got sidetracked into Aspergers, again another interesting area.
Other, more general topics are interesting as 'work avoidance' for times when I can't be bothered to do anything more productive and AIBU area is just fun to watch the bunfights.
There is the issue of the 'expert witness', being the person in a given situation that knows the most about the required topic. There may be male gynecologists out there who proffer their wisdom. Granted although they would understand the 'mechanics' of an issue they may well not understand the feelings. In a similar vein, a female surgeon/nurse may be an expert on vasectomies/prostate issues.

The men bit is, but not the above

You've posted on here more than anyone I think. One of the reasons most people stopped. The echo chamber is you.

Yes, because as a woman I have an alternative viewpoint and some people have a real, real problem with that!
If people are going to quote me/fling shit at me I'm going to come back and defend myself. I won't just cry and go off.

Women who dare to say that "actually, I don't mind men and women on here, I like conversing with all parents" aren't allowed to speak either, get accused of an agenda or some such shite.

This is not true

Yeah, it actually is.

I have been speaking, i have been saying i dont mind men and women on here

I have not been told i cant speak, have an agenda or some shite

Neither have some other posters on here

So no...it actually isnt

Absolutely happy to agree that a poster may have been saying this to another poster....but it is not a blanket attitude throughout the thread

Rufus, to be fair, yes you have and you're one of the nice posters.
If you haven't been accused of having an agenda well that's good.

Damn, posted too soon. You've kept yourself fairly neutral, maybe that's why. I've been agreeing with male points of view on here and that hasn't gone down well.

Thank you very much krytens

I am very Switzerland to be fair

It’s a wall of sound. There’s no arguing with it. Yawn

Mrsterrypratchett that is exactly it. I was going to keep responding but it has become a male circle-jerk with a couple of women cheer-leading.

Pure fantasy.

90% of this thread is women. There is no way men are dominating the discourse. Analyse it by number of words, number of posts, however you choose.

And women with alternative views are still women, not the insulting ‘handmaidens’ that they get termed here.

I am very Switzerland to be fair

See, that's where I think I'm going wrong. I'm not neutral enough lol.
You're nice and neutral as a woman (I presume you are, anyway)

Kind of bringing myself back round to my point though, (sorry)

• you don't get the shit flung at you if you don't agree with the men. You've been agreeing with the females too. So we're both on the same page as I'm saying I don't mind talking to either, and I see why some women want a female only space too. The only difference is I'm agreeing with the men too, I think they're talking sense on here (this thread anyway lol) and that seems to be a BIG no no as a woman on MN!

And women with alternative views are still women, not the insulting ‘handmaidens’ that they get termed here.

Thank you for picking up on that, I was like
How bloody rude. I'm nobody's handmaiden! Just someone with my own mind.

I dont have a problem with men posting

i do have a problem with some of the men who post

I dont have a problem with men posting

i do have a problem with some of the men who post

Same, all the men posting and stirring up trouble should of course be dealt with. Same as all trolls should.