Is there a similar forum to MN for men? And if not, why not?

[Multidimensionalbeing]

Because I think there should be.

I don't hate men though it will probably be suggested. I really don't. And I think the forum should be open to anyone who wants to use it for advice.

But....It's becoming increasingly strange around here. We've always had the 'what about the menz?' posters derailing threads talking about the harrassment or abuse of women by pointing out that women do it too..... Though it seems worse recently.

But now it seems that so many threads descend into accusations that men are treated differently on MN and often they are. But surely that's because it has a predominantly female membership? Who will see things from the female perspective?

It seems to me that it's causing division and bun-fighting among posters when I genuinely don't understand why there isn't a similar forum available for men?

Why not?

Why does a man join a predominantly female forum to then point out that they're not being treated like a woman? Or....just sit and watch as the women do it for them?

If there is no where else for them on-line then why not?

I'm sure it's possible.

It is a parenting forum called MUMSnet, clue is in the name. I would not join a group called Dadsnet because it is a parenting group because I am a woman.
Name is irrelevant , massive percentage here don't even have kids!

It is a parenting forum called MUMSnet, clue is in the name.

Why pick at the semantics and the wording of the name? Are you completely missing the fact you said parenting forum?
Dads are parents too and have just as much right to get *parenting advice and support on parenting matters as mums are.

Mumsnet - by parents for parents. As the tagline up there says ^^

Name is irrelevant , massive percentage here don't even have kids!

Exactly. There's loads of females on here who don't have kids and don't want them either.
Should those women not be on here too?

As @multidimenstionalbeing said though, it does say MUMSNET, so it does seem odd that MEN come on here. (To me, and that poster obviously....)

As I said, I am entitled think (and say) that! And so is she!

MN has been asked to start a male counterpart to the 'Feminism' section but so far they've failed to do so.

@krytensnanobots. OK. There is no need to be so FKing rude!

Sorry if I came across as rude.
My question still stands though. Why should men not be entitled to parenting advice and support too?

I'm not sure they are all here for parenting advice. There seem to be a fair few childless men who come on here to be nasty to women.

My husband uses F365.

It’s predominantly football, lots of NSFW gif threads, several threads where they post the most ridiculous AIBUs from here and rip the absolute piss out of the hysterical responses on some of them and quite a lot of good, useful and supportive threads like on here too.

I didn't say they SHOULDN'T be allowed to come for advise - and I would welcome anyone.

I just said I find it odd that men come on here, and yes I find it odd that women with no children come on here too. (Unless they are thinking of having them, or want them, or have them in their life (like a stepchild for example.)

That is just my opinion (that I find it odd that they come here.) Like I said, there was no need to be arsey and snappy.

I'm not sure they are all here for parenting advice.

What about the ones that are? They're men too.

ADVICE, not advise. (Typo!)

It is a parenting forum called MUMSnet, clue is in the name. I would not join a group called Dadsnet because it is a parenting group because I am a woman.

Name is irrelevant , massive percentage here don't even have kids!

I might go and join Italian singles chat. I’m not Italian, nor have I ever been there, oh I’m not single either but why not!?

People are Bonkers!

I'm not sure they are all here for parenting advice. There seem to be a fair few childless men who come on here to be nasty to women.

Not everyone has to be here for parenting advice. Look at the topic names. Loads don't relate to kids.

I agree that some men (as far as anyone can know the sex of a poster) are just here to cause trouble. So are some female posters. They need reporting and dealing with by MNHQ.

I don't really understand what you're asking. Of course there are forums for men, and forums dominated by men. But the men on mumsnet that you're complaining about are not here because they don't have anywhere else to go. They're here because they want to argue with women.

Krytensnanobots Why can't men have their own space for parenting advice instead of going to a predominantly female space?

Some think that women should never be allowed a space without males having equal rights to it, sadly it does not work both ways.

It is sad that women feel they do not have the ability to discuss things without men shutting them down by saying bad things happen to men too.

I know this site is for men and women, this does not stop me from thinking it odd that men want to join a group called mumsnet.

I have no issue with men who are here for parenting advice, or any non parents who are here for the variety of subjects that aren't related to having children. I do have an issue with the men who contribute nothing but an eye roll or an insult and derail threads about women's issues.

I DO have a problem with men pitching up on threads about male abuse saying ' women do it too'.

I hate to tell you but female MNers say this too.

at the post by sunshine! Nasty.

sun I agree with you, the clue's in the name...
I think that (some) men come here because they don't like the fact that it's a place where women can speak freely and have their experiences of motherhood and womanhood centred, rather than being pushed to the sidelines; and want to destroy this set-up. They probably see it as 'redressing the balance' or something. Same thing's happened on the 2xchromosomes subreddit. These men hate not being included in the threads, or having their experiences discussed. It's sad and I don't see a solution to it, really.

It is, and especially was, a parenting forum. I joined about 8 years ago when I found out about it via my wife and, rateher than ask her to post threads, found it easier to ask questions directly.

Still fun to look around and post sometimes but I have learned to accept than MN is a very cliquey forum which has its own views on things (very middle middle class aspiring to upper middle class on average and, thus, a bit chippy).

It is biased against men but, being predominantly female, fair enough really. There are also some v bright well educated posters who are fascinating to read.

Ultimately it is the internet and, when one does a reality check against real life friends and colleagues often the majority MN view is a tiny minority of the real world view.

Why can't men have their own space for parenting advice instead of going to a predominantly female space?

Because they want expert advice

In terms of men in general (not the goady ones), mumsnet has obviously grown into a huge forum where almost anything is discussed (and most of it not specific to women) – is there any other forum so broad in nature and so busy?

Male posters don't have to announce they're men. Pick a username that doesn't have "dad" etc in it. Don't start your posts with "man here" and just join the discussion.

The mansplaining posts make me really angry but there's no reason he men can't be a valuable part of the forum here.

The name isn't the point; it's obviously by design and it's history and progression that MN is a predominantly female forum.

And that doesn't mean that men aren't welcome but it does mean that the majority of opinions will be female.

And Dadsnet and it's like hasn't taken off in the same way because men either don't think they need it or don't want to use it so they come over to MN.

Which is fine till they mansplain or 'what about the menz' or get irate that they're treated differently to women.

If they created their own forums there wouldn't be this problem. But once again, it's something that was initially designed for or aimed towards women and we have to make sure it's as accessible for men too and apologise when it isn't considering them and their feelings in quite the same way.

I think people are really going to have to learn to accept the fact that there is no safe space on the internet. You cannot just cordon off an area and say “women only” and expect it to be respected. It won’t be. People will always intrude. You have to accept this. You have to learn to deal with it. These people exist in real life and you have to learn to handle it. Use the intrusion of the unwelcome visitors on MN to practise how to deal with them IRL. They aren’t going anywhere.