to ask why is it acceptable to say you hate kids?

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Prompted by a certain female comedien saying this (whom I love btw!), it seems that it is the last taboo. By all means say you are not a child-person, you don't want kids etc but HATE them? You wouldn't be able to say that about any other group of people (and kids are people), so why do people say it about children?

Of course you can invite who you like but it's the thought of sending out the official invites and saying "no oldies, hope you understand xxxx".

Presumably if we get to a stage where people think an invitation can be assumed to include their grandparents or other older relatives despite them not being named on the invitation, and I'd add despite having no independent relationship with the bridge and groom, then people will also start specifying that.

Because kids are annoying.

i dont like childrn i feel anxious around thm how thy'll behave so mayb i have more of a problem with the parenting-u know when thyre running amok in the shops and completly ignored by their parents

i can only tolerate family

Shoxfordian

I've almost definitely been guilty of saying I hate children

In my experience it's because I see so many children misbehaving and screaming out in public or the weird starey thing they do. Also all the noise and running around.

I sometimes think the Victorians had the right idea with "seen and not heard"

The Victorians were spot on.

People who declare that they hate children hate being ignored when they do

Well, if we say it when there are very badly behaved children climbing over the backs of soft furnishing in a restaurant, and generally being a fucking nuisance to everybody, including other well behaved and civilised children, then yes, we do hate being ignored.
We hate how you ignore us when we ask you to sort your fucking kids out.

I assume you also hate people with disabilities?

Don't be silly Rosie.
Smugly announcing how much you hate children is very different from hating the bad behaviour of children such as those in your oddly specific example.

To those saying they hate children because they are messy, noisy, needy, loud etc... Well those descriptions can often apply to the very elderly and people with certain disabilities, so I presume you hate them too?

Is it genuine hatred or is it more for a reaction?

Probably both.

Hating a whole class of vulnerable people says more about the people doing the hating. I find it odd that they choose to spend time on aparenting site.

I hate old people
Win a free weekend in our pensioner-free resort
No old people after 11pm
No pensioners allowed at the bar
Women should be seen and not heard
Ew I don't do old people

I went into a pub in Devon last week, and written above the door in large letters was a sign saying "No Children or Dogs"

I'm not a fan of either, in a pub, but that was a step beyond...

On MN it is much more acceptable to say you hate children than cats or dogs.

Whilst I get the points being made on the thread, I just can't get worked up about this. Saying you 'hate' kids is just a figure of speech - I doubt most people who say this would actually want to see children harmed or think they are not deserving as the same human rights as everyone else.

I like kids, which is a good thing as I have two of my own and I am a teacher, but yes they can be really fucking annoying at times and if you just don't like being around them then that's your perogative really.

On MN it is much more acceptable to say you hate children than cats or dogs.

As soon as a thread pops up about dogs that isn't all "dogs are wonderful", people call it a dog bashing thread.

Of course you can invite who you like but it's the thought of sending out the official invites and saying "no oldies, hope you understand

If I was invited to a friend's wedding, I wouldn't think to bring my mother or my granny. Nor would I expect to bring my children, unless they were specifically invited.

There are people who 'would'' bring their uninvited children, so the bride and groom are forced to make it abundantly clear on the invitation that small children are not included on the invitation.
If invitees would stop and think, and not take liberties, then the bride and groom would not have to come over all miserygut childhaters.
The people named on the invitation are the people who are invited. Simples.

Don't be silly Rosie

Don't patronise me. My opinion is as valid as yours.

You completely ignored the context of what I wrote.

missyB1

To those saying they hate children because they are messy, noisy, needy, loud etc... Well those descriptions can often apply to the very elderly and people with certain disabilities, so I presume you hate them too?

That is a ludicrous leap.

I know what you mean, annawoolfworries, it’s always puzzled me, but when I’ve asked the question I’ve been made to feel unkind for asking the question. I get the impression they like having the opportunity to moan about kids.

I still can't get over the fact that people have no kids weddings. If I had invite that excluded my child I wouldn't go. Also, this isn't the same as not expecting older members of the family to turn up, children are part of your immediate family, older grandparents are not.

Mittens They go on saying "Well there are many other sections on MN". Well, yes there are. But this as a whole is a parenting website, so if you go on about your burning hatred of kids don't be all shocked and have a cats bum face if you are told you are unreasonable.

I assume you also hate people with disabilities

If that's to me, I have a dd with severe LD. And she has to behave a bloody sight better than 'normal' kids around us to avoid the tuts and stares. There is a reason she doesn't understand social norms. She is non-verbal and cannot understand what we ask of her. Most of the undisciplined kids around us are just that. Undisciplined. It makes me sad that my dd is perceived as badly behaved, when she is simply no more intellectually developed than a 3 month old. Yes, it pisses me off when NT children are allowed to run riot in public places.
Because my dd has pretty obvious LD, I couldn't allow that to happen.
It would be very lax of me.

Thanks @Rosewhitetips
I don't hate children in that I would mistreat a child or want one to be mistreated obviously.

I'm not a naturally maternal woman and I resent the assumption that I would love to hold someone's baby or play with someone's child just because I'm female but I know that's a slightly different argument anyway...

Meh, kids are bloody annoying, and undisciplined children are even worse.

All those questions. All that noise. All the whingey nonsense. All the smells and sticky stuff on hands/astound nose

When. Does. It. Stop.

Make. It. Stop

Send help, I'm 36 weeks pregnant and will have my own DC around me soon

Send help, I'm 36 weeks pregnant and will have my own DC around me soon

You're going to need more than that. gin]