To think loads of people in Hollywood knew about Harvey Weinstein and dont want to admit it?

[ssd]

all the shock and horror is getting on my nerves, are they really telling us this guy hit on loads of the woman there and was abusive towards them and no one talked about it?

sheesh

*skin crawl

I worked in the most right-on leftie environment and was warned about the office sleaze. Who very vaguely tried it on. I in turn, warned the lovely woman who was recruited... of course none of us knew the exact details of each harassment. Not really the point...

Pawpainting: it wasn't until 2011 after the scandal broke that the extent of his crimes came to the general public's attention.

I work with someone like you.

With the very greatest of respect.

S. Heldon. Esq

I in turn, warned the lovely woman who was recruited... of course none of us knew the exact details of each harassment. Not really the point.

That kind of exactly is the point though if you think about it. Same thing.
You don't know the exact nature of the harassment, you just know he's someone to keep away from otherwise you wouldn't be telling people to stay away otherwise. Isn't that the case here too and some A listers/actresses/actors saying the exact same thing?
Not sure of any details to outright say what's troubling them but enough to warn others off just in case.

The sad fact is I have worked for many male sleazy bosses, firstly in the entertainment industry, and Secondly in the medicine ( I have had an interesting and varied career path).

It is VERY difficult to stand up and be counted as a lone female - believe me. Especially in those industries where, even if there is a reasonable female representation, the men dominate the higher ranks and pull all the strings. There is I certain safety in numbers, so I am not surprised in the way things are coming out and the pattern of allegations.

sheldonesque: Super!

Best,
MJD

Not quite super.

All due respect.

S. Heldon Esq

But if it was unthinkable to be able to work as the sleazy, harassing, nasty man, all would be fine. The fact is that is perfectly fine. No one cares. Everyone knows and he works and lives and is happy.

I’m struggling to think of a comparable thing. Because, depressingly, it appears that sexually assaulting women, children, whomever, is no barrier to paid employment for men. What is the magical thing that makes men unemployable? Because almost anything renders women unemployable!

Hollywood is run by a handful of very powerfulmen people
Unfortunately, people keep quiet about these rumours truths because they wanted to keep,working .....I'm sure this is just the tip of a very large iceberg ( like operation Yewtree was in UK)
My dd studied Film at Uni and was all set to go in to film/TV as a career until she heard about how closed rank and misogynistic the whole industry is

There's always been rumours. But I can definitely understand why some people thought they were bullshit, like a lot of other celebrity gossip.

The 3 most widely spread Weinstein rumours involved Blake Lively, Jennifer Lawrence and Gretchen Mol. Yet all 3 say nothing ever happened to them, and I believe them.

The rumours about Blake, which started almost a decade ago, implied she slept with Harvey for film roles, and that he was singlehandedly propping up her career and giving her work. Except she's actually never worked with him. He never cast her in anything. People made up whole stories about which films she did what for, and they never even checked if said films had anything to do with Weinstein.

The same thing with Jennifer Lawrence. She already had one Oscar nomination and lead roles in two franchises (X-Men and Hunger Games) before she worked with him on one film. Yet there's no shortage of people who claim he started her career. She hasn't worked with him since that one film, but people were still constantly claiming he was casting her in his films and campaigning for her during awards season, even though the films she was in had absolutely nothing to do with his production company.

Then there's Gretchen Mol. The rumours about her were treated like absolute fact, but they all stem from one disgustingly misogynistic piece of gossip that didn't even name anyone involved.

If those 3 women heard rumours about Weinstein, why on earth would they believe them when they knew the very widespread rumours about themselves to be completely untrue? Their natural assumption would be that other actresses reputations were being smeared like theirs were.

Pretty much every actress under 40 who ever worked with Weinstein or took a photograph with Weinstein had rumours spread about their relationship to him. Some actresses who never worked with him and were never even seen with him in any capacity were still rumoured to be sleeping with him, because 'she's one of Harvey's Girls' became shorthand for saying you think an actress is overrated and untalented.

I actually wonder if he didn't put a lot of false rumours out there himself. That way for every person who heard he was sleeping with or assaulting women, there'd be someone else who could say 'well, they said that about me and it was total bullshit'. Creates a real environment of doubt where only the victims can really be sure of the truth, and the victims obviously won't have gone around telling every other celebrity their personal stories.

If those 3 women heard rumours about Weinstein, why on earth would they believe them when they knew the very widespread rumours about themselves to be completely untrue?

Oh give me a break.

In the late nineties I lived in LA and was dating an actor. We went to a party and he warned me then not to get trapped anywhere alone with HW. It was a ridiculously well known fact that the guy is a total creep, but unfortunately one who had a lot of control over careers.

I know this is like totally not cool and all that, but I genuinely could not give a shit. About any of it. I just wonder wtf is the real news we’re being distracted from.

Oh look at you babe being all 'who gives a fuck about rape'. The Weinstein story is totally a cover for an alien invasion...

Alot knew. Alot suspected. Some had no idea.

It's called "not upsetting the apple cart".

Well I'm glad the fucking cart is being tipped over! Even his staff knew not to go to his room on your own yet they allowed others to go on their own.

Money, money, money. Everything has a price the further up the ladder you go.

@MartinJD, there are dozens of women who have described very similar situations, therefore I believe them. Taking Weinstein's side makes you a rape apologist. Are you happy with that?

Regards.

Dr2

Mrs terry, apparently having a yahoo email account makes you unemployable as a female president, but grabbing women by the pussy is fine if you're a male one.

And Martin, as it seems to be very important to you to structure your posts in the "proper" way, I thought you might appreciate me pointing out that it's "would HAVE (commonly shortened to would've)" and not "would OF".

HTH.

Warmest regards

Random.

Parallels can be drawn with Saville. Yes there where rumours that he was a deviant but certainly no one really knew what he was up to, apart from his victims of course. I suspect this case is similar in that sense

Oh do fuck right off. People fucking knew and they should hang their fucking heads in shame.

Initials CS, sorry.

It's not just sexual assaults against females, it's the abuse of children too that's rife in Hollywood. It's a massive control and power trip and it's about time it all came to light and people became answerable but they won't.

With all these names coming out alongside Harvey, I'm waiting for some celebrity death announcements too.

But apparently looking for connections makes me in need of a foil hat because mainstream media only print want they want to be believed!

Today 01:25 khajiit13

Of course they all knew. And for all the ones coming forward, you'll have at least twice as many keeping quiet because they went a long with it and made a career.

This in spades

Everyone knew. Just everyone. But he was seen as far too rich and powerful for anyone to take down. If anyone started a rumour then others would stop it.

Same with Saville. He was untouchable. I’ve heard lots of people who worked at the BBC saying that young women knew to avoid him etc. No one knew the extent of what he did though.

Oh and Martin? Fuck off, theirs a good chap. You are being rather a patronising twat.

Ask yourselves this.

Do you work in an office? Is there an office creep? The guy you wouldn’t share a taxi with after the Christmas do? When you were a young female working in an office did anyone senior ever make an inappropriate remark to you? Touch your knee?

Did you report them? Why not, if not?

I’ll tell you why no one says anything, it’s because this is all completely normalized in our society run by powerful white middle class men. We’ve all been brainwashed into thinking we either can’t do anything about it or there’s no point doing anything about it. Believe me your HR department know about the office creep - so why report him if they already know?

This shit goes on day in day out in every workplace in the country. If you want to know why no one in Hollywood reported HW, ask yourself why no one in your workplace has reported your office creep.