To say that vegans can't really like food?

[DrRisotto]

I mean they don't eat most food so most cooking shows and recipe books are pointless for them. Going out for meals a chore. Birthdays, celebrations, dates... so much of is centred around food which they have to deny themselves and pick around.

I have nothing against vegans and everyone has the absolute right to eat what they want. But trying to cater for a vegan along with other guests is bloody hard work.

Reckon I'll get roasted for this.

I had been vegetarian for well over twenty years when three years ago my then15yr DD decided to become vegan. Rather than be making two meals each night, I decided to embrace veganism as a culinary challenge for our family. I can honestly say we eat fabulous food which not only tastes great, but is undoubtably better for us health-wise, not to mention better environmentally & philosophically.

It's been fantastic; our meals are more delicious than before (& yes, I do consider myself to be somewhat of a "foodie). I still occasionally eat imported butter & triple brie, but other than that, don't miss dairy/eggs at all. I make amazing cakes, biscuits, and desserts like Tiramisu, and would challenge anyone to taste a difference.

Yup, meat & cheese "fakes" are pretty average and if you were to rely on those, your diet would indeed be very disappointing as it would be if you relied on meat & three veg every night. Rather than approach veganism/vegetarianism as a dietary lack, it is better to consider all the amazing things one can eat; pulses, beans, nuts, vegetables, fruits, grains, oils and so forth. If the vegan food you make is boring, then you need to become more creative and expand you culinary repertoire.

Have another vegan from me.

Have to admit, I have no time for vegans, and refuse to cater for any.

My friend's daughter went on a course in Austria as part of her uni degree, and it was 2 weeks residential. The people running it said they do NOT cater for vegans. (She is veggie though...) Actually quite a few places across the world don't cater for vegans.

Another thing is, many people I know who claim to be vegans, do eat (and drink) dairy sometimes, yet they still crow (constantly) on twatter and fakebook about the 'veganism...' yawn..........

There's a cafe and shop near-ish to me called The Happy Pear and they do delicious food that is all vegan. I'm an omnivore but I'm always happy to eat there and it's always good. They have a few cookbooks out as well.

The one caveat I would have about vegan food is that it's best when it doesn't try to be a vegan version of a non-vegan food, especially biscuits, cakes and desserts, but also things like lasagne where there has to be a dairy substitute. The Happy Pear always has loads of lovely-looking, vegan versions of things like millionaire's shortbread or rocky road, and they always taste wrong.

I find it completely mindboggling that anyone could claim to like food, but be incapable of cooking something without animal products. If you actually liked food you would be aware of all the amazing foods and ingredients that don't come from animals. It's really not that hard and I am no vegan. I am however Low FODMAP for medical reasons and I can assure you that really is a pain to cook for.

I don't cook for friends, ever, but I think even I could probably manage something with the help of Google if I absolutely had to!

I'd love to be able to eat some of the vegan dishes but my knackered digestive system objects to anything high in fibre so a lot of things are out for me.

I would imagine many places worldwide don't cater for vegans, I don't think many people would expect that.

@bingbongnoise if you had a vegan friend (I presume you don't as you don't have any time for them), would you just never invite them round for a meal/event involving food? Or invite them, but make it clear there'll be no food for them?

It’s ok bingbongnoise, on behalf of all vegans, we had a meeting, and we have no time for you either

I'm vegan and I love food, especially cake 😀

Vegan substitute food is awful...I don't think understand how anyone can eat it, it's full of nasties..
There is absolutely nothing wrong with eating animal produce. For the majority of people eating everything in moderation is the way to go.

I'm veggie but eat vegan fairly regularly (aka any time my meal doesn't happen to have eggs or cheese in).

I LOVE food. Actually, I think it's the people who say they could never be vegetarian/vegan because they don't know what they'd eat that presumably aren't that into food. I love food so much that there is just so much to eat beyond meat. There is so much good animal-free food in the world, seriously! Anyone who thinks otherwise probably needs to just broaden their horizons and start enjoying food a bit more.

"There is absolutely nothing wrong with eating animal produce." For you. For other people that's not the case.

@bingbongnoise I'm wondering how you cope without experimenting with all these amazing foods, I imagine it to be quite bland limiting yourself to non-vegan food only 🤔

bingbong

That's really made me laugh.

I keep imagining you pouring milk on your guests food whenever they try to eat an olive or have a sip of wine. WE'LL HAVE NO VEGAN FOOD HERE!!!

And yes vegans do sometimes accidentally eat products with dairy in, manufacturers put it in the most random things but you just get back on your horse (well rather stand next to your horse and allow it to live a full life ) the next day.

I must say though that every vegan I have known has looked nsomewhat tkred and sallow skinned. Of course there must be plenty of people I pass in the street who are vegan and look perfectly healthy. I have just never known any personally.

Actually, I think it's the people who say they could never be vegetarian/vegan because they don't know what they'd eat that presumably aren't that into food

I love food but sadly a lot of food doesn't love me. That includes most fruit, some vegetables (all if I have too much), Quorn, lentils etc. Any suggestions what I can have instead of meat without being ill would be great!

I wonder if individuals who don't cater for vegans take into account allergies or even strong preferences when cooking for friends? Do you refuse to cater for people who are allergic to nuts or if you knew I really, really hated cheese sauce would you insist on serving me lasagna anyway? I can't imagine refusing to cater for a guests' pretences and dietary requirements if I invited them round, that would just be amazingly rude surely.

I'm vegan (if you haven't guessed by now but as a vegan I do have to declare it every time I speak )

And I rarely eat the meat and cheese substitutes, one because they are expensive and two because I don't like the taste. To be honest I don't know many vegans who do, it's perfectly possible to avoid them and still have a full and varied diet.

our local vegan bakery

Oh yes, those are everywhere. If you live in Hipsterville.

Cooking for vegetarians is easy. Cooking for vegans - or eating out with them - is a fecking nightmare. Nearly all veggie options contain eggs or dairy. Exclude that from the menu and you have to be a lot more creative. And when you're eating out the convresation with the waiter usually goes "Hi, do you have any VEGAN options, because I don't eat animal products, I'm a VEGAN. You must have VEGAN options. Did I mention I'm a VEGAN?"

FFS. If you can use Mumsnet then you are perfectly capable of googling a vegan recipe. Only lacto-ovo ourselves as we are cheese obsessives but being vegan is really not that hard these days. I find the idea that they don’t like food really insulting. Fungi, truffles, asparagus, avocado, nuts, seeds, pulses, grains, vegetables, fruits, herbs, spices, egg-free pasta, rice, etc., are delicious if prepared and cooked properly. I used to make a fantastic vegan chocolate cake which everyone loved.

I am the same PinkSparkly. If it wasn't for me crappy digestive system I would actually quite like to be vegan, but I just can't do it when my diet is already so restricted. I would have no problems cooking something for a vegan guest if they came round though. In fact I have a vegan friend so do cook for her without issue. I usually do something quite flexible, which I can have with meat to and she have without meat...sort of tapas type things of that makes sense.

I don't imagine bing bong would make friends with a vegan to ever worry about cooking for them anyway!

I know a few vegans, they don't eat meat substitute things. My grandparents weren't from the UK and that side of the family was vegan long before any of that was available.

Faddy attention-seekers are annoying. Especially those who have read some clean-eating shit and put themselves on stupidly restrictive diets as a result.
Often the worst aspect of such people is not that they are difficult to cater for, but the fuss they insist on making over every meal. In some cases, it's good old fashioned puritanism and bullying (and/or an actual eating disorder). And then you get the ones who are 'vegan' because they care so much about everything but actually won't eat anything other than bread and crisps or economy quorn nuggets...

Yes Serena Williams looks very undernourished and tired, poor woman obviously needs a steak

I went to a Lebanese yesterday and ate like a queen ! Everything was gorgeous and the whole meal was vegan , didn't even really realise it

I am heavily flirting with it .

It actually baffles me how people can watch any video about meat and dairy production and not completely cringe . It's GRIM and inhuman and I feel ashamed that my milk is produced in such torturous conditions

How can people not see it ?

I must say though that every vegan I have known has looked nsomewhat tkred and sallow skinned. Of course there must be plenty of people I pass in the street who are vegan and look perfectly healthy. I have just never known any personally.

My vegan friend does hill running for fun. I assure you she is the fittest and most healthy person I know.