17 year old girl walking home sexually assaulted by multiple, unconnected men

[NoLoveofMine]

An absolutely horrendous case in which a 17 year old girl trying to get home on a night out was subject to multiple serious sexual assaults it seems by men completely unconnected to one another. What does this say about society, that different men in a small geographical location within the space of an hour all had such contempt for women and girls they chose to commit these abhorrent attacks on her? It's hideous. I don't usually start threads in this section of the board but I feel so enraged by these attacks and feel more should be aware of this misogyny.

[http://news.met.police.uk/news/appeal-after-woman-sexually-assaulted-by-multiple-suspects-following-night-out-267602]

That poor girl is tonight worrying whether the CCTV evidence is enough and whether her testimony is enough and whether they'll just think she randomly went with three different guys as she maybe had drink on her. She is wondering whether the coppers actually believe her at all. I really hope they do.

I think they do. I'm worried, though, that the attackers will never be caught.

And unfortunately I know that police ask horrible questions like 'Is it possible you willingly went with him?' 'Is it possible you consented?'. 'How did you meet them?' 'How much drink had you taken at that time?'

Hope you are doing alright Ties.

Oh they'll be caught eventually. For the simple reason that this won't be a once-off for any of them.

I very much fear this won't be a one off and there will be further victims of these abhorrent men. Such contempt for women and girls, so widespread.

The bastard who raped me raped that fifteen year old girl less than a month later. She went to court. I wasn't fit to. I didn't feel believed because I had been drinking and I got the impression they thought I wouldn't be a strong witness. He's serving 9 years. Dirty rotten animal. Just an animal. Not human.

He is and I can't begin to imagine what you feel. So sorry, I hope that doesn't sound trite. It makes me so angry these men choose to perpetrate such horrific attacks on women and girls.

Hate to harp on the same point but 'who the fuck reared them?'

In my day there was 'rearing'. You were fucking reared well probably with the head beaten off you in the process but there were boundaries and standards and expectations of behaviour.

I can't help but wonder what their mothers think of them. Probably visit the cunts in prison.

I despise them and they deserve no-one x

I have just started reading the thread, but have to comment now, I'm outraged about this and totally astounded at the YouTube clip of Donna Karan!
I will never ever be able to look at any of her work again.

I used to date a guy that seemed like a great male feminist. Said all the right things, worked a socially concious job, had a mother who was a strong feminist and a lesbian. Anyway one day we were out on the balcony of my unit relaxing, and he wanted to have sex. I said I didn't feel like it and got up to go inside. He stood up and blocked the door. He said "no, you are staying" - in a sort of joking way but not really.

To my continuing shame, I gave in and had sex with him.

Since that day, I no longer believe that it's "not all men" and that it's possible to raise men to not be predators. This guy had literally every advantage and chance to grow up right. And he nearly did, but as soon as he got half a boner all his beliefs went right out the window.

I am petrified to have a son. No matter what I do as a mother, it won't help. Half a boner and I'm sure he'd throw me under a bus on his way to rape some poor women. I hope I'm wrong and things can change.

When I saw the headline on a news site last night I thought it was referring to the previous case of a young girl who was attacked multiple times in one night by different, unrelated perpetrators. To my astonishment and dismay, I then realised it was another case of this happening.

I too like to think the majority of men, like the majority of women, are law-abiding citizens who don't wish others harm but as many individuals in this thread have said, there are simply far too many cases like this.

Let's put this into perspective: according to Cancer Research UK statistics, 54,800 women in the UK were diagnosed with breast cancer in 2014. According to Rape Crisis England and Wales, 85,000 women are raped in England & Wales every year. Furthermore, the latter statistic relates to just rapes, not sexual assaults, a man exposing himself to you etc., if we include those then the figure increases fivefold.

We have big events, marathons, campaigns, generous research funding for breast cancer and raising awareness but in reality as a woman you're more likely to get raped in this country than develop breast cancer. Maybe it's time we actually had a serious dialogue about rape as well beyond the "Oh, isn't that awful." when we hear about it. We can't go on just accepting the status quo that 1 in 4/5 women we know will be sexually assaulted/raped in their lifetime.

Can you even imagine the preventative measures, campaigns, legal changes etc. that would be implemented if as many men were subjected to sex crimes?

I will repeat myself because I'm nothing if not repetitive. WHO IS REARING THEM?

Are there descriptions of the girl’s attackers. Maybe they are bar or restaurant workers or may have been in bars in the area. Someone must know who they are. I lived there 30 years ago and felt very safe then, but I don’t think you are safe anywhere now.

Chestervase Met police have issued as much as they have in the linked article on the first page of this thread. It has come up on my facebook feed so I can copy and paste again? First guy - all they know is dark clothing. Second guy - seen with a bike. Third guy - can't actually remember anything they have said. As far as I can see they haven't physical descriptions as to colour/height/clothing/accent.

This is directly from the Met's facebook feed.

Appeal after woman sexually assaulted by multiple suspects
Detectives have released CCTV footage of two men they would like to identify after a 17-year-old girl was sexually assaulted three times on her way home after a night out.
Officers believe that the victim was attacked on three separate occasions within one hour - from around 11:55pm on Friday, 29 September up until around 00:55am on Saturday 30 September - after she became separated from her friends following a visit to a Tower Hamlets night club.
The student was trying to get home to central London at the time she was attacked in quick succession by suspect 1, suspect 2 and suspect 3. Detectives believe the last attacker was part of a small group.
CCTV footage and still images of two of the men - suspects 2 and 3 - have been retrieved from different cameras that the Met team has used to track the victim's movements around the streets at the time of the attack
The victim's ordeal started shortly before midnight when she was first picked up on camera being carried by a man [suspect 1] on Cambridge Heath Road. The image quality of the CCTV prior to this first incident is of too poor to release, the man can only be described as wearing dark clothing. The pair are then seen appearing to go into a doorway on the same road, after which the man is not seen again on camera, but items of the top half of the girl's clothing were subsequently found by the location.
Shortly after midnight, another CCTV camera picks up the girl stumbling down Mint Street being followed by a different, bearded male, on a racing bicycle - [suspect 2].
These images shows the man is wearing a backwards baseball cap which has a square/rectangular emblem front centre, a hooded zip jacket (open) which is two toned in colour with the shoulders and upper back area being darker, exposing a plain tee-shirt underneath. He has dark trousers and a bag on his back.
Officers have established from studying the complete section of this footage that this man on a bike follows the teenager along Mint Street and then as she turns right into Three Colts Lane and heads in the direction of Bethnal Green Overground Station.
When the next camera picks her up a short time later, the man has approached her and they have reached Corfield Street.
The CCTV indicates that he then directs the victim into an area set just back from the street where they remain for a period of time. The camera then shows suspect 2 leaving this location and walking away. The girl, whose clothing appears dishevelled, emerges shortly afterwards and goes further down Corfield Street.
Just minutes later, around 12:45pm, detectives believe that the victim suffered a third attack, this final time possibly involving two or three men. The CCTV captures a third, different man [suspect 3] walking down Corfield Street and joining two other figures seen in the distance in outline shadow under some trees. He appears to bend down towards a spot on the kerb in between some parked cars. Detectives believe it is at this point where the victim was sexually assaulted.
This same male is then seen at about 12:55hrs coming back up Corfield Street on his own, walking towards the CCTV camera. The clip reveals that the suspect has a distinctive gait, which gives him the appearance of walking unevenly and perhaps being slightly bow-legged.
Following this, a member of the public spotted the teenager lying on the ground in Corfield Street in a state of distress and immediately rung 999 to alert police. Officers arrived shortly afterwards and took her for examination and specialist support.
Officers from the Child Abuse and Sexual Offences Command (CASO) have already conducted public witness appeals and now are urgently seeking help from any members of the public who can identify either man in the footage or have any other information.
Detective Inspector Suzanne Jordan, from the Met's Child Abuse and Sexual Offences Command, (CAS0) said: "This is a horrific multiple sexual assault on an young female who was simply making her way home after a night out. We would like to thank the members of the public who intervened to help her and possibly prevented her ordeal from continuing even further."
"We believe two of the three were very serious sexual assaults indeed, and are determined to catch the persons responsible for these hideous crimes. I would urge anyone who recognises either male in these images to contact us as a matter of urgency.
"We'd also like to speak to any witnesses who haven't already come forward, or anyone with any information at all however insignificant they believe it might be - it could prove crucial to progressing our enquiries."
Anyone with information should contact the CASO team investigating on 020 8733 5999 or via the Met on 101 or via twitter at @MetCC.
Information can also be provided anonymously by contacting Crimestoppers on 0800 555 111 or online at www.crimestoppers-uk.org.

From the Met appeal:

"Detective Inspector Suzanne Jordan, from the Met's Child Abuse and Sexual Offences Command, (CAS0) said: "This is a horrific multiple sexual assault on an young female who was simply making her way home after a night out. We would like to thank the members of the public who intervened to help her and possibly prevented her ordeal from continuing even further."

The bit I bolded is a strange way of putting it, considering all the men who victimised and sexually assaulted her were members of the public and she was attacked three times in one night. I don't think her ordeal could've gotten much worse frankly.

I think they were trying to thank the final normal humans who actually got the poor little thing some help.

In four years, my daughter will be 17. I am not saying this lightly, but if any dirty bastard lays a hand on her I will castrate him and do my time.

And I'd do it with a blunt shears.

I swear to God. Hell would be fine for me if anyone touches my daughter. I'd swing for the cunt who dares. And serve eternity in hell.
Her father isn't around so she just has me. My father has a shotgun. I honestly would probably murder anyone who molested my daughter. Touch wood and please God she will never ever encounter a dirty rotten cunt.

@TiesThatBindMe

"In four years, my daughter will be 17. I am not saying this lightly, but if any dirty bastard lays a hand on her I will castrate him and do my time. And I'd do it with a blunt shears."

I don't blame you at all, I would be the same if it happened to me or another female I know and loved. The tragic thing is you would undoubtedly serve probably at least double the time of the scumbag rapist.

I think it's a disgrace that women aren't even allowed to carry pepper spray or anything more intimidating than a flimsy rape alarm to protect themselves. Physically most of us are at at a disadvantage when it comes to defending ourselves and we are not allowed to arm ourselves with the most basic of protection tools. I realise self-defense is of course an option but I doubt the effectiveness of basic self-defense classes when face-to-face with an attacker who is naturally larger and stronger than you.

Telephone helplines for Rape Crisis for anyone who has experienced sexual violence

England and Wales

Scotland

I am sorry I cannot find one for Northern Ireland.

You will be believed and it is not your fault. Many women never seek support and it is a dark dark burden to carry when you did nothing wrong. It happens in the horrific ways in the news, it happens with people you loved and trusted and should have protected you. And it is not your fault,

I am the mother of a son, I am teaching him consent from hugs and kisses as a child. I am teaching him to respect girls and women as much as men. But society needs to do that too, and when porn culture and indeed some mainstream advertising encourages objectification and abuse of women, that will be an uphill battle.

NoLove and Ties - I hope you got some sleep in the end

There was an interesting radio programme on the other day about sexual assault in schools. The assaults ranged from touching to rape. There has been a huge increase in this type of crime and the victims were all girls and the perpetrators all boys. Accessibility to porn was the main contributor according to the "experts". Some of the boys had been viewing hard core porn as young as 7 years old.