To NOT get WIFI??

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Me and my DP have a phone each with more than enough data to use when we are at home for internet etc. We have 3 TVs throughout the house with more than enough channels, a DVD player and a PS4 with mass amounts of dvds and games. We have never felt the need to pay an addition cost for sky/virgin/WiFi

My DP has an 11 year old son who comes to ours every other weekend and twice each week on week nights. Since he got his own phone and iPad for his birthday we allow him to connect to our data so he can use them to play on games and access the internet.

I am just about fed up of hearing his comments about us not having WiFi or sky ‘you’re like old people’ ‘it’s just stupid’ ‘I guess I’ll have to waste my mobile data AGAIN’ ‘oh great we have to watch NORMAL tv’ ‘god sake I can’t play online here on PS4’

Really!!?? I’ve told him to doesn’t know how lucky he is! He just roles his eyes at me. My DP doesn’t say anything to his comments, and tells me that’s kids nowadays!

Maybe it is but it still frustrates me!

AIBU???

4 DC here. All very active have bikes and 2 DSs play for the local football team.
Having WIFI does not stop them from being active

Why are you so against making you DSS less miserable OP?

I’m assuming, HeadDreamer that the OP means that she doesn’t have broadband at home at all, and her only internet access is the 4G on their phones. It would cost her money to get broadband into her home - although that could be offset by switching their phones to lower data allowance.

All you WiFi obsessed people are the reason why children don’t go outdoors anymore. At least both our boys still love going out on their bikes and scooters/ playing football on the park with Dad and having family days out

Don't be silly. We did both. Mine were outdoors roaming endlessly so that is a v daft thing to say.

Wifi is another utility and you haven't yet said WHY you are so insistent on not having it. Bizarre.

The other thing is that using data relies on good signal. There is a chance it becomes inaccessible or is unstable.

Where do you live Headdreamer?

Wifi isn't free anywhere in England that I've heard of, I might consider moving, that would cut my monthly bills

loveit my 8yr old son was on the podium last week for youth championship mnt biking qualifier in our area. He is currently spending his Sunday morning playing on his tablet using WiFi.

I am a qualified forest school instructor and mountain guide. Ia currently using my wifi to reply to your tripe on here.

Despite having wifi, we get out plenty, thank you very much

"I am just about fed up of hearing his comments about us not having WiFi or sky ‘you’re like old people’ ‘it’s just stupid’ ‘I guess I’ll have to waste my mobile data AGAIN’ ‘oh great we have to watch NORMAL tv’ ‘god sake I can’t play online here on PS4’"

"Really!!?? I’ve told him to doesn’t know how lucky he is! He just roles his eyes at me. My DP doesn’t say anything to his comments, and tells me that’s kids nowadays!"

The problem is not that you don't have WIFI, the problem is that DP allows his son to be rude to you both.

Honestly, I'd suggest to your DP that he pulls his son up on his comments, tells him that his repetitive complaints are BORING and point out that any eye-rolling in the future will be met with loss of access, so he really has something to complain about .

How dare you call me WiFi obsessed. How dare you tell me my dd doesn’t enjoy going out on bike rides, doesn’t get taken out and accuse me of being the reason as to why children don’t get to play outside!!

Ooh that made me feel so self righteous. Or perhaps not. 🙄

My dd does some kind of sport every day apart from one. Right now she’s at a rugby tournament. Funnily enough we still have WiFi.

You’re really really not coming across well op.

And the reason as to why you 8 yr old doesn’t complain is because he’s 8. He’s not bloody 11!

It just seems to me like you're putting a lot of time and money into deliberately NOT having wifi just to say "Isn't it wonderful that we don't need it". The simplest solution would be to get basic wifi, get a cheaper mobile package, and stop messing around with tethering. You need to realise all it'll do is make it more straightforward to connect during the times when you'd already be online, and possibly save you some money, it's not going to turn you all into screen-obsessed zombies just because it's wifi not 4g!

No wifi, how archaic

Are you in 1997?
Hard to imagine not having wifi. We do live in a mobile blackspot but even so.
I don't see how you can do school work on a phone?
Around this house of four adults (DH, me and two adult DC) we have connected to wifi;
four phones
two desktop computers, one used for gaming
two printers
3 tablets
one games console, also used for Netflix
Sky
one smart box
one firestick
three laptops.
So 18 gadgets....

We still manage to be perfectly active, spend time outdoors, reading and all sorts of things that don't involve looking at a screen, with WiFi. I couldn't do any work without it. But hey, when your DP's son chooses not to come and see you any more in a couple of years' time, you'll feel you can justifiably moan about him, and feel smug that you still haven't got WiFi and your point is made.

All you WiFi obsessed people are the reason why children don’t go outdoors anymore. At least both our boys still love going out on their bikes and scooters/ playing football on the park with Dad and having family days out.

I think you're a bit confused about how it all works - Mobile data is for outside the home, when you can't connect to your own broadband, and WiFi is for inside the home, so you can get much faster, cheaper access to the Internet and do 'at home' things like play on the PS4.

So if you get both, you see, you and your step son will not be spunking all your cash on mobile data, and your step son can still go outside and be connected whenever he likes!

Hth, try also this biscuit:

I pay for Xbox gold. Strangely it's not for me but for my son as he loves it and I'm keen to make him happy. Don't worry we are going to the zoo later and were out at a scooter park yesterday so we do manage to leave the house.
I wouldn't pay for wifi just so the odd guest could use it, but this is your day not some random.

Your dss not your day

This thread made me laugh.
Interesting to see how people don't seem to imagine that you can indeed live in the 21st century and not have endless gadget around.
Or that some people actually have no idea how to use their gadgets to their full abilities (e.g. The OP is very clear that her SS doesn't do its homework on a phone but uses the HOTSPOT from the OP phone to access the internet)
Or the fact the SS has access to the internet wo any restriction. It's just a different way to get to it.

OP it's OK. Some people live with a lot of gadgets, some don't.
Some have TV and others don't. Some access the internet through WIFI and others through 3G/4G.
Your issue here has little to do with that. But with the fact that your dss is used to live with certain things around him (eg Xbox, wifi etc...) and finds it hard to not get that with you.

Plenty of talk about how people do things differently and it's OK is the way to go.

You dint have to do things just to keep,up the Jones or because that's what 'everyone' does.
It is worth looking at how much his complaints are real complaints (e.g. Not having a Xbox did make Dc1 more isolated socially even though it never made a difference to dc2 ) or if they are just grumbling about not having the same things at your house than he has at his mums.

All you WiFi obsessed people are the reason why children don’t go outdoors anymore. At least both our boys still love going out on their bikes and scooters/ playing football on the park with Dad and having family days out.

I agree that the people who have said things like, call childline, and suggested you deserve it if he doesn't visit are being completely unreasonable. There is more to life than bloody Wi-Fi!

He will need it for homework in the future but at the moment that is not his complaint. I would stick to your guns if you are happy. He's only 11 not 15 how much Wi-Fi does an 11 year old actually need?

As to people criticising you for your TV choices, why is it anyone else's business how much TV and what type of TV you watch? I went to school in the 1990s with a girl who had no tv in her house. She was absolutely fine!

Fwiw people who think thatbthe OP is archaic...

I'm wondering how it will take for everything to be going through the ether (so mobile phone and 3G/4G) rather than physical stuff such as a landline and WIFI.

What if the OP is actually really ahead of her time by only using phone internet signal rather WIFI?

Eg I remember about 20 years ago not having a landline and only a mobile phone. People used to tell me I was unreasonable and everyone has a landline and it's not that expensive anyway etc etc.
And here we are now with people using their mobiles phones only and not having a landline anymore.....

Fruit my dcs do not have a TV either.
It's 2017 and they are fine.

Actually when we do go somewhere with a TV, they find themselves endlessly going from one channel to the next unable to find something they enjoy.
That's because they are used to choose what they watch and don't want to settle for things they only will watch half heartedly.

They are not social pariahs because of that either.

Surely the cost of a dvd is astronomical compared to Netflix

Surely the point is not whether you can access the Internet through the phone data, but that the boy is repeatedly asking for something that could easily be provided for him with no negative effects other than about a tenner a month or whatever.

Mobile data is to be used outside IMHO.

A lot of network providers don't really allow tethering and if they do they throttle the speeds massively.

I'm curious as to how your partner manages PS4 system and game updates as they can be several GB at a time, not to mention the cost for the mobile data must be exorbitant - my unlimited fibre costs £20 a month.

You sound a bit of a fuddy duddy OP.

The thing is you may be happy with what you have but someone in your household isn't.

That would matter to me.

For me I would look into alternatives work out if they would cost me or not and start the discussion from there.

But I like to make the people I live with happy, even if I can't always see the point myself. Not everything our young people need or want will make sense to us. I've generally worked on the principle if it's cheaper than I would do anyway, I pay for it if it's more expensive they make up the difference from there pocket money.

Your attitude is quite ridiculous in your last post. It will be very alienating and doesn't foster communication

Lewisthere 20 years ago you were being unreasonable imo if you expected people to call you on your mobile as most people did not have unlimited calls then and will have been charged a lot to call you from their landlines.